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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Review of the I am Jazz Book by a Doctor

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DarthArts · 10/05/2018 20:22

www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2018/04/21220/

Well worth a read.

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DarthArts · 10/05/2018 20:23

Author: Michael K. Laidlaw, MD is a board-certified physician in Rocklin, California specializing in Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Metabolism.

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thecraftyfox · 10/05/2018 20:29

Unfortunately despite the interesting content, the organisation who host it are conservative and are anti-gay rights and pro life. Why is it only the right wing who publish this? So many people will dismiss without reading purely because of the link to the witherspoon institute.

DarthArts · 10/05/2018 20:34

Indeed - the essay itself is very factual however.

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spontaneousgiventime · 10/05/2018 20:34

WOW! I don't know what else to say without breaking TG. Thanks for posting. This should be essential reading for all parents.

MrsUnderwood · 10/05/2018 20:37

That was an interesting and troubling read. My heart goes out to the poor kid.

BeUpStanding · 10/05/2018 21:00

Thanks for linking to that essay. It was one of the clearest and most heartbreaking pieces I have read so far about the risks of the transcult to children. I actually feel quite tearful now

ReluctantCamper · 10/05/2018 21:06

That was really interesting - thanks for linking

DarthArts · 10/05/2018 21:26

I had a heavy heart after reading it :-(

It's not because I wasn't aware of much of what they essay contained, it's just seeing it all in one place as it were, showed the enormity of the decision to enable children down a path of transition.

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Greymisty · 10/05/2018 21:34

Read this when it was doing the rounds on Twitter. Shame it's associated with the right, anti-gay and anti-women. I think it still has it merits though and it's a good round up of the issues the book represents.

nauticant · 10/05/2018 23:05

WOW! I don't know what else to say without breaking TG.

Heh. I had much the same thought.

IWearPurple · 11/05/2018 01:20

Becoming Board-certified is a stringent process: www.abpsus.org/board-certification-physician

I know one Board-certified person (not a physician). They said that the process was more exacting than their PhD (and they have a STEM PhD).

thebewilderness · 11/05/2018 01:56

It reflects badly on those who consider themselves liberal or leftys or journalists that the only people willing to express concern for children being abused are the conservatives.

thebewilderness · 11/05/2018 01:57

And the Feminists on MN.

Terfing · 11/05/2018 02:11

Poor child Sad

And sadly, this is far from over, and we have learned nothing from it.

How could someone do that to their baby?

Coyoacan · 11/05/2018 03:56

I find I increasingly do not know what left and right mean anymore. If this man's compassion for Jazz is right-wing then I must be right-wing.

thebewilderness · 11/05/2018 05:02

@Coyoacan

Somewhat simplistic but lefty d00dbros view women as public property while righty dudes view women as private property.

Urbanbeetler · 11/05/2018 06:08

He can’t help but show his obvious bias though - it is a flawed article whatever you viewpoint is regarding the transition in childhood debate. He is openly judgemental about Jazz’s trip to the drag club - drag being something which has always been strong across British family TV.

He links to risks of substance abuse as an omission, only very grudgingly admitting that this doesn’t apply to Jazz who has shown no signs of it - why then should it be included in the autobiography of this child?

I have mixed feelings about childhood transition but I can clearly see this is from the hand of someone who very likely feels the same way about gay teens- with a host of his own prejudices overlying his science.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 11/05/2018 07:04

I read the drag thing differently. It is unusual to take a 16yo there for a birthday - I doubt many British teenagers go to drag clubs with their parents to mark a birthday however recognised drag is here. And there's a million miles between a Soho drag club and the sort of anodyne stuff one sees on British family TV.
But I think it's inexplicable they'd take Jazz there because drag is expressly about men dressing as women - put it on, take it off. That seems the polar opposite of what Jazz and Jazz's family give the impression they think Jazz is doing.
You may be right and he was sneering because he's a US conservative and drag = sin and filth. I just read him as saying - this is an odd choice of venue for Jazz's family birthday celebrations, with which I would agree.

Flomper · 11/05/2018 07:13

Poor Jazz, was my main thought after reading this. Very factual, whatever any political leanings. God poor Jazz. Forever stuck in some brief, normal childhood window of wanting to be the opposite gender (a normal phase many, myself included go through), with no experience or possible experience of the adult world of sexual expression, infertile and with ill health stacking up inside. How can anyone have done that to their child just to be seen as "right on"? (or becasue they couldn't just let Jazz be a gay male?). Disturbing.

Coyoacan · 11/05/2018 14:10

He links to risks of substance abuse as an omission, only very grudgingly admitting that this doesn’t apply to Jazz who has shown no signs of it - why then should it be included in the autobiography of this child?

But the book is not just an autobiography though, it a children's book aimed at informing very young children that this is a simple option available to them.

But I find it astounding that anyone could read that article and still say "I have mixed feelings about childhood transition".

I feel sorry for all the children going through this, but my heart breaks for poor Jazz, whose destruction is being filmed for family entertainment

Urbanbeetler · 11/05/2018 16:51

I have mixed feelings because although it sounds terrifying it isn’t my experience so how do I know if it isn’t ever the right thing?

HouseMouseQueen · 11/05/2018 18:03

I honestly don't care if it's associated with a right wing think tank since they're the only groups doing any serious thinking on this issue and openly expressing it.

There's another Youtube channel called Mass Resistance where a GP of 40 something years took apart the transgender fad and the shoddy non-scientific research of the transactivist orgs in an hour lecture. He was a religious person, but he still has decades of medical practice.

DailyMailClickbait · 11/05/2018 18:16

I feel very very sorry for Jazz. And also for all the children currently being run through a trans-treatment regime. I wonder how many of them are actually going to end up being diagnosed with genuine gender dysphoria, and how many of them are struggling with societal expectations of gender constructs but who, left alone, would come to an acceptance of themselves as they are.

I also feel very sorry for those who genuinely wish to transition. At some point there is going to be an awakening and a backlash against the radical TRA agenda - which will make the lives of genuinely trans people even harder.

That's what is so fucking sad about this whole mess; nobody wins.

MrsWooster · 11/05/2018 18:31

DAILYMAIL
yes, this.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 11/05/2018 18:43

I’m sure someone wins out of Jazz. Just not Jazz.

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