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Universal credit & domestic abuse

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QuarksandLeptons · 09/05/2018 22:52

Good article in the Financial Times

www.ft.com/content/aaaaf2fa-4c63-11e8-8a8e-22951a2d8493

Brief summary:
10% of the households receiving the benefit are couples. The new system puts it all into one account which means that in the event of it going into the account of a controlling & abusive partner, the abusive partners can end up not sharing the money, leaving women and children vulnerable. There are cases documented of women and children going hungry and not having money for nappies or sanitary items.
Worse, women & children end up being forced to stay in dangerous circumstances because they don’t have the money to leave.

How can changes like these be made to the system without thinking through the real life consequences to huge numbers of women & children? Surely, this would have been flagged up if relevant women’s groups had been asked to comment on proposed changes

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HelenaDove · 17/06/2018 22:59

"Evicted raped and left penniless " Universal Credit.

metro.co.uk/2018/06/16/i-was-evicted-raped-and-left-penniless-this-is-how-badly-universal-credit-failed-its-claimants-7633762/

LangCleg · 19/06/2018 17:36

Bumping for the publication of this report from the Women's Budget Group:

wbg.org.uk/uncategorised/press-release-universal-credit-risks-increasing-womens-vulnerability-financial-abuse-say-womens-groups/

(Press release.)

wbg.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/FINAL-full-report-financial-abuse-and-uc-combined-cover.pdf

(Full report.)

As Universal Credit continues to roll out nationally, women’s groups will publish a new report at an event in Parliament today (20 June) which raises concerns that Universal Credit payments which are paid into one bank account for everyone in the household, rather than individual accounts, risk giving more power to abusers in homes where women are domestic violence.

The new report, ‘Universal Credit and Financial Abuse: Exploring the links’, by the Women’s Budget Group, Surviving Economic Abuse and the End Violence Against Women Coalition, says it is critical that this huge change in the welfare system is checked for its potential impact on women who are being abused, especially when domestic abuse is known to be an extremely widespread crime (1).

The report argues that that the single payment could result in less equal couple relationships, and risks further financial abuse. The reduction of women’s financial autonomy could result in main carers (usually in practice mothers) losing clearly-labelled child payments, which currently are often paid separately and can provide a lifeline to survivors of domestic abuse.

Terfulike · 19/06/2018 17:40

The only good thing to be said is that child benefit is still paid separately, usually to the mother (unless the husbands got her to hand that over too.)

LangCleg · 19/06/2018 17:52

Yes. To me, it's clear that a central plank of UC is to "nudge" women into staying in relationships. Shame they forgot how many of them are abusive - see explosion in care applications for another result of forcing women to stay.

Cutyourshakehole · 23/06/2018 23:44

Is this definitely being kept then, UC? I admit I didn’t know much about it before reading here. Is there no chance of it being stopped or changed? Seems so heavily flawed to be ignored

VaggieMight · 23/06/2018 23:58

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Offred · 24/06/2018 00:02

When it was coming in I had discussions with labour ppl who were in favour of it and the ‘simplification’. I said the whole point of rolling everybody into it is to categorised everybody claiming as ‘undeserving’ and to hide dehumanising practices behind a Victorian narrative of ‘undeserving poor’. I did change their minds but I’m not happy to be right.

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Offred · 24/06/2018 01:29

I don’t think it’s the press TBH. IMO, yes the press has been awful, but really it has happened because of politicians.

There was a time when politicians were prepared to say and do things that were not popular - that goes for the ones I agree with and the ones I don’t.

Blair changed the relationship between politicians and the press by creating a system where politics was beholden to the media.

Now it is very difficult for politicians to do politics.

It is one of the many things I hate Blair for.

Offred · 24/06/2018 01:38

A big part of the problem was that the majority of the people when they heard narratives re the undeserving thought ‘this doesn’t apply to me’.

Lots of families, having been made dependent on tax credits by low wages and Blair/Brown’s ‘third way’ social security, and buying into believing tax credits do not ‘count’ as ‘being on benefits’ are about to find out they are seen as undeserving.

My heart breaks a little over this TBH. I always knew it but they will see very soon that ‘the undeserving’ make up 90% of this country. ‘The undeserving’ are anyone who isn’t rich and TBH if the tories has their way it would be anyone who wasn’t from inherited wealth.

I don’t think people really understand what the tories actually believe.

Offred · 24/06/2018 01:41

It is not accidental for example that the middle classes are being ‘squeezed’... the tories don’t believe the middle classes are ‘deserving’. They believe that deservingness is inherited and reluctantly concede that they need to allow ‘self made’ wealth to exist because it allows them to justify policies that create poverty by pointing them out occasionally as ‘examples’ of meritocracy.

LangCleg · 24/06/2018 09:59

Ed Miliband said he would not reverse UC, I'm not sure what JC's policy is.

JC's Labour intends to keep UC with a few relatively minor tweaks (eg removal of rape clause). Of the £12bn in cuts, the manifesto put £2bn back. It needed the other £10bn to cancel tuition fees.

LangCleg · 24/06/2018 10:00

Lots of families, having been made dependent on tax credits by low wages and Blair/Brown’s ‘third way’ social security, and buying into believing tax credits do not ‘count’ as ‘being on benefits’ are about to find out they are seen as undeserving.

Yes. One in five families will be claiming UC once the transition from tax credits is complete. That is a lot of households.

HelenaDove · 27/06/2018 13:56

From the UC Survival fb page Gaslighting at the JC.

"warning rant coming!!!!!!!..daughter went to job centre today for appointment at 10.50..she arrived booked in at 10.45 was told sit in certain area and someone will come get you.she watched other work coaches come to the area and get their clients,.So she did her and her 5 weeks old baby.11.20 comes so she ask how long.."you were called but you didnt come"even the security guard even stood upand said " she been here since 10.45 and no one has callled"....so they moved her appointment to 12.20..she went to feed the baby as now 11.50 no where to go to feed baby and be back in time with a bottle and was told cant do that here on premisies..she asked if there was somewhere to change him "no you cant do that here"...she said if i dont get the 12.40 bus back i am stranded as rural area..told "if you dont attend you will be sanctioned"...so obviously she is there now sobbing heart out with baby crying.If she hadnt attended or was late i agree she should be dealt with but she was there!!!...AAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHH rant over!"

BlackeyedSusan · 27/06/2018 23:27

there were less serious examples of that going on when I claimed years ago, but it only delayed things by a day or so, not by weeks of sanctions.

Alexa488 · 28/06/2018 02:21

Black eye are you serious I was one of the first on UC and it took them months to decide that yes I did deserve the benefir Cap grace period...one day... Ive spent literally hours on the phone for literally several days per month for literally years

Alexa488 · 28/06/2018 02:25

Tax Credit recipients are indeed in for a shock so big that I do suspect they might stop it. Which is good but what about us fuckers whos lives were fucked up by living in an experimental area

HelenaDove · 28/06/2018 20:22

"The United Nations has launched an investigation into poverty and human rights in the UK which will examine the impact of the austerity policies of Theresa May and David Cameron over the past eight years.

The inquiry will be led by Prof Philip Alston, the UN’s special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, who angered the Donald Trump administration this month when he concluded after a similar visit to the US that the White House’s contempt for the poor was driving “cruel policies”.

The fact-finding trip is scheduled for this autumn and will be the first visit to a western European country by a representative of the UN’s rapporteur’s office since a trip to Ireland in 2011. Alston’s most recent inquiries into extreme poverty have taken him to the US, China, Saudi Arabia and Ghana.

“The UK has gone through a period of pretty deep budget cuts first under the coalition and then the Conservatives and I am interested to see what the outcome of that has been,” Alston told the Guardian. “I am also interested to look at what seems to be a renewed debate on all sides about the need to increase spending at least for some of the key programmes.”

He said the challenges facing the UK were different to the US, where he has concluded Trump’s policies were “tailor-made to maximise inequality and to plunge millions of working Americans, and those unable to work, into penury”.

Alston said: “In the UK, things are at a different place where there is no great budget surplus to be mobilised. Welfare cuts have taken place but there is now an interesting debate on whether they have gone too far and what measures need to be taken to shore up the NHS and other programmes.”

Alston has not yet determined exactly what he will focus on and will shortly invite submissions from groups who want to suggest matters for him to consider. They could include housing squalour, insecurity at work, in-work poverty, mental health and political disenfranchisement.

Alston will arrive as survivors and residents continue to give evidence to the public inquiry into the Grenfell Tower disaster. Many have said they felt their views and needs were ignored or marginalised by the local authority.

“Poverty is often characterised by a lack of political power, by a difficulty in enjoying even basic civil and political rights,” said Alston

The Institute for Fiscal Studies this month found that people with longstanding mental health problems in the UK were more than twice as likely to be in poverty as those without a longstanding health problem.

Destitution, however, has fallen over the past two years, according to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, although there are fears that the universal credit scheme could reverse those gains.

The number of people unable to enjoy two or more essentials - shelter, food, heat, light, appropriate clothing and basic toiletries - fell by a quarter to 1.5 million from 2015-17 as benefit sanctions eased. Of those rated as destitute, 25% were born abroad.

Torsten Bell, the director of the Resolution Foundation thinktank, said Alston would see a changed picture of poverty in the UK. “Twenty years ago, poverty in Britain was concentrated among pensioners and workless households,” he said.

“Now poverty has moved into the workplace with more than half of the children growing up in poverty in working households.”

Meghan Campbell, the deputy director of the Oxford Human Rights Hub, cited Brexit as a looming issue because employment protections were threatened by withdrawal from the European Union.

She said rising costs of child and elderly care would particularly affect the ability of women to be economically independent

Alston said: “No one is suggesting the conditions in the UK are those of a poor developing country, but every rich country, as my mission to the US showed, has pockets of poverty everywhere.

“The government statistics and a diverse array of civil society organisations would suggest the UK does have important challenges dealing with poverty.”

The shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, welcomed Alston’s plan to consider the impact of austerity.

“Austerity is a political choice made by Tory-led governments that cut spending on vital public services whilst, at the same time, handing out tax giveaways for giant corporations and the super-rich,” he said.

“Only last year, a separate UN investigation concluded that Tory spending cuts trampled on the human rights of disabled people, whilst the Institute for Fiscal Studies forecasts child poverty to hit record levels in the next few years.”

Previous UN missions to the UK have been highly controversial. In 2013, Raquel Rolnik, the UN rapporteur on housing, proposed the government suspend cuts to what it calls the spare room subsidy but is widely known as the bedroom tax and affects residents of social housing with spare rooms. Her report was dismissed as “a Marxist diatribe” by the then housing minister Kris Hopkins.

Alston is an Australian international human rights law expert currently based at New York University. When he toured the US, he studied homelessness on Skid Row in Los Angeles, poverty in African-American areas in Alabama and the stricken coal country of West Virginia. He has been a UN rapporteur since 2004 and has specialised in extreme poverty and human rights for the past four years."

arranfan · 18/09/2018 07:31

I know Helena Dove mentioned Joe Halewood upthread but he has a lot of material on the consequences of the benefit cap, universal credit, housing benefits etc. plus the activities of Housing Associations that evict more tenants than Private Landlords.

speyejoe2.wordpress.com

HelenaDove · 18/09/2018 16:35

YY arranfan.