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Thanks to the Amazing Women of FWR

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WanderinWomb · 02/05/2018 13:31

I have de-lurked (un-lurked?) after many many years to say this.
I can only read this board for a couple of weeks before needing to take a few months off in a repeating cycle it's so infuriating and frustrating that my blood pressure canna take it. How do you do it?

There so many amazing strong , clever and impressively persistent women here that I don't have enough hats to take off to you all.

The piss trolls, poo trolls, the patronising , the perverts, the needy, the narcissists and the downright nasty just keep coming and so many of you stay regardless to keep standing up for women.

I picture a line of those tennis ball launchers pounding out the misogyny one side of the net and Martina Navratilova and Serena Williams one the other. You just keep hitting them back with seemingly endless reserves of practice, patience and power.

Thank you. I love you. Hurrah to the women of FWR Mumsnet .

You have no idea how many THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of lurkers appreciate you. Never stop.

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OvaHere · 02/05/2018 23:01

streakofmalevolence

Another inspired username. Grin

CourageCallsToCourage · 02/05/2018 23:02

Aaah, what have I done?! Grin

Errol I'd never heard it before either! I really need to read up; my history knowledge is dreadful, even on subjects I'm really passionate about.

Ofew · 02/05/2018 23:05

I too have been lurking for a couple of months and have never posted. I've always considered myself a feminist and it has been wonderful to find such a great community of funny and intelligent women talking about the issues I am interested in (I don't always find this in real life).

BingBongSong · 02/05/2018 23:06

Thanks from me too. I've been on MN for what must be close to a decade and learned from the articulate and intelligent women on FWR and elsewhere on the board. I really do feel as if a war is being waged on women at the moment, and although the boards are being assaulted at the moment by activists wishing to shut us up, it still provides respite from the misogyny that is so prolific on social media and in the press.

I was thinking - this reminds me of (although seems far bigger than) the time when F4J came and attacked the boards... do I remember correctly that they took out an ad in the national press or something?

HesterShaw · 02/05/2018 23:07

Thank you FWR and MN for staying and persevering. I have started saying stuff in RL thanks to you.

ImPreCis · 02/05/2018 23:29

I’m going to have to post now. Been lurking for a while, and even posted quite a few times. I have name changed, just in case!
Totally in awe of the amazing women that post on here, you have removed the veil from my eyes and I can’t go back now. I am also so bloody angry, that I am having to something physical (housework) to calm down.

I have seen the light and now I can see the lights!

MadeinBelfast · 02/05/2018 23:35

I'm watching a local TV show and they are discussing gender-neutral language. I think it shows how much time I've spent reading this board when my first thought was 'What would Mumsnet think about this?' 🙂 Thanks for all the thoughts and discussions, it's nice to find intelligent ideas on this stuff.

Hornets · 02/05/2018 23:45

Wow what a welcome. I will definitely try to start posting regularly on here now I've de-lurked!

Really great to see fellow lurkers waving too.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 02/05/2018 23:49

Thanks for this thread. Gin to all. Fuckers abound today. TRAs are getting very agitated. This means we are getting the truth out.

Welcome to all the lurkers. Stay and post, please. As you can see, MNers can be very very funny in the face of adversity. We need lots more laughing.

and Gin Lots of Gin

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 03/05/2018 00:13

Hell hath no fury like a Mumsnetter de-lurking on the FWR boards!

It’s shit for your blood pressure but brilliant for your self-esteem. Come on in sisters and park your weary arses.

PositivelyPERF · 03/05/2018 00:19

Welcome to the wonderful world of women’s voices, my lovely lurkers. I haven’t had the energy to post for a few days, but have been just reading and digesting. It can be exhausting just trying to find the right words to express how pissed off I am, with all the misogynistic crap that is being pushed on women now. I thought the 70s were bad, but the misogynists are just using a new method of doing the same old shit. Unfortunately they are getting support from the powers that be, now.

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WanderinWomb · 03/05/2018 00:49

Delurking and starting this thread has been wonderful. Best thing I've done in ages.
Hello to all. Grin
There are so many reading this forum and feeling the same way as us. I think its the most popular after AIBU but with Mensa level company. x

De-lurk away.

Jump in you lot , the water is lovely

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insufficientlyfeminine · 03/05/2018 01:14

I haven't been to most of the internet's forums, but those I have been to are largely shit. This is the only place to get good, largely civil conversation, and it's all thanks to the regulars! You ladies are so amazing!

DuddlePluck · 03/05/2018 02:04

We should hold a FWR delurkers party with much Gin

I delurked a couple of months ago after reading FWR for a few months before that (I'd previously been on MN years ago when my kids were younger, but all kid-related stuff). I don't post that often, but I've learned SO much. Thanks to the brilliant posters on here, I've had enough courage & confidence to start talking about these issues IRL. When I started lurking, all I had was a strong gut feeling that the gender ideology propaganda I'd been exposed to in the media & on training courses was inconsistent, incoherent nonsense. Thanks to the brilliant posters on here though, although I've still got my L plates on, I've got facts & clear, cogent arguments to back me up. You're inspiring other women to be brave, and that's absolutely fucking awesome.

Flowers Flowers Flowers for all the amazing women of FWR!

TotallyLibrarianPoo · 03/05/2018 04:06

What a great thread OP, thank you for posting!

Also massive thank you to all the MNers who tirelessly post day after day, and never give up.

FWRFlowersWine

ALittleBitofVitriol · 03/05/2018 05:24

Okay, seems like the time to delurk...

This space is one of the most intelligent places on the internet. It's been an honour and great fun to read along. Thank you!

QuentinSummers · 03/05/2018 07:02

Awww what a lovely thread Flowers
boatyard your wings cracked me up

GeorgeFayne · 03/05/2018 07:30

A great big THANK YOU all the way from the States for the brilliant, passionate, spirited, and well-informed women of the FWR threads of Mumsnet. I've discovered my inner feminist who had been hiding all these years. I'm learning so much!

And some of your little British phrases are starting to rub off on me. I said "bloody" the other day and my husband looked at me rather oddly. It's great!

sportinguista · 03/05/2018 07:38

De-lurking to say that I whole-heartedly support the women on this thread, not had an opportunity to post much because of work being exceptionally busy. I don't know much about feminism theory like many of the regular posters but if believing in women's rights is what it takes then yes, I am one.

I keep peaktransing over and over and the Shon Faye thread both had me in stitches and absolutely raging. What disgusting excuse for a human being associates themselves with death threats on a baby? I've seen no threats at all on these boards towards any trans individual but it seems they consider it more than acceptable to do this.

I believe in free speech, debate and the right of women and girls to privacy and dignity and the right to feel safe. The debate here has been nothing but intelligent, well-informed and polite with a good dose of humour too!

I think at some point one needs to take a stand. Both myself and DH hereby pin our colours to the mast.

YesILikeItToo · 03/05/2018 08:26

I agree. I have this really strong feeling that when I left all the thinking about feminist theory to others so that I could study my own stuff those others actually went off and did the work and now I need it they are ready with the tools and vocabulary to tackle the issues.

Melamin · 03/05/2018 09:49

I love this thread. It has quite a party atmosphere!

Petition link petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118
Keep sharing Smile

LaSqrrl · 03/05/2018 10:11

Wine lurkers! I am not that long de-lurked myself.

Always nice to hear that mere words have an impact!

AskMeHow · 03/05/2018 10:17

Another lurker here.

I used to be very active on a very leftist/socialist community/political board but most political posters there have joined the TRA side. A couple of discussions about Women's Place and people genuinely unsure about what trans means has just led to a pile on to GC people.

This is a board that is very sceptical about id-pol generally, yet trans stuff is somehow an exception. I think it's all part of a generally dismissive attitude to women in the left which this TRA thing had brought out in stark relief.

Very glad that MN is here.

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WanderinWomb · 03/05/2018 11:45

So much impact LaSqurl, So damn much.

All us de-lurkers thanking FWR is the tip of the iceberg. There are thousands more reading.. The regular posters deserve all the gratitude and praise we can give. More power to their elbows.

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OnTheList · 03/05/2018 13:20

When I first posted here I was in awe at the depth of knowledge here, I am now more in awe. The long time posters have educated me on so much.

Definitely agree with this.

You know, its so odd to think that as little as 3 years back, whenever mumsnet was mentioned, I had a lace similar to netmums in my head. All huin and talking solely about your precious babies and prams and that. My first actual visit was a bit of an eye openers to say the least Grin

I love this place, I love you all, and yes, I have never known so many amazing knowledgable people to be in one place. And mainly women too. MN, for me, breaks the stereotype of 'mums/women' massively. And this is why we are under attack.

Oddly enough, I only signed up here after DDs school suggested it. They had a presentation and at the end had listed mumsnet as a place you could join for support. My first post was about being stalked by my health visitor. I pretty much had my arse handed to me too, I felt so under attack. But I have came to love that about here, how people are not afraid to tell the truth, even if it does hurt someones feelings.