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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Amber Rudd - Another woman ousted

49 replies

QuarksandLeptons · 30/04/2018 08:18

Aside from party politics; in a political landscape practically devoid of women, it is very disappointing that a woman holding an incredibly powerful office has been ousted.

I don't think that a man in her position would have been as pressured to resign. Many men in the past year in the cabinet and shadow cabinet have done more reprehensible things and have remained.

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Potplant2 · 30/04/2018 08:23

Oh FFS. Ask the women refugees I work with, one who had a baby this week and is under threat of deportation next month, along with her husband and two older children, to a country where family members of hers have been raped and killed by people who’ve threatened to do the same to her kids, or women of the Windrush generation just how great they think it’s been having a woman Home Secretary.

This culture of unwelcome has to stop. I don’t care whether the person in charge is wearing a skirt or carrying around XX chromosomes or not.

OrchidInTheSun · 30/04/2018 08:24

I'm a huge feminist but Rudd had to go. She didn't know what her own department was doing.

SinglePringle · 30/04/2018 08:27

I think that, regardless of sex, any Home Secretary who put in the cluster fuck that was her appearance before the Select Committee would have been writing their resignation letter as they exited the room.

FermatsTheorem · 30/04/2018 08:28

Two separate issues. It's a disgrace there aren't more women in the cabinet. But Rudd had to go. She knew about the situation and misled parliament.

(She's also an unprincipled opportunistic shit - she came and campaigned for remain in my workplace, then when the referendum went against her, reinvented herself as a rampantly anti-immigration home secretary - has everyone already forgotten her speech to the Tory party conference where she suggested a workplace register of foreigners, aka forcing your employer to spy for the home office?)

QuoadUltra · 30/04/2018 08:29

In all honesty, the Tories would have loved to have kept her - and her being a woman was part of that appeal.

A man would have had to go last week.

LangCleg · 30/04/2018 08:32

I agree with everyone else. She didn't just spin interviews, she misled the House.

leghairdontcare · 30/04/2018 08:34

I think we have lower standards for our politicians these days so there's not as many resignations during this government as you'd expect. I think Amber Rudd is actually one of the more competent ones but ultimately they're all responsible for creating a terrible government. I think a man in her position would also have to resign. The test is how quickly she'll come back.

overnightangel · 30/04/2018 08:35

@QuarksandLeptons you’re basically saying she should keep her job because she’s a woman?
You’re an idiot

MrPan · 30/04/2018 08:37

Erm...Mr Clarke...Mr Blunkett......off top of head.

Nasty woman from the nasty party. May, who ironically coined the phrase, needs to go next. We shouldn't be preserving racists bastards just because they are female ones.

TeresasGreen · 30/04/2018 08:38

Of course she had to go.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 30/04/2018 08:39

Tbf, she was shit.

TeresasGreen · 30/04/2018 08:39

Perhaps Gove can self ID to keep the gender balance better?

MillicentF · 30/04/2018 08:42

She repeatedly lied to the House and had apparantly lost control of her Department. So she had to go, regardless of sex.

Another problem is that she picked on "nice" immigrants- you know, photogenic middle aged ones with good English accents.

ALittleAubergine · 30/04/2018 08:44

I'm disappointed, I thought for a long time she was one of thetory MPs that I could agree with, mainly I guess due to her brexit stance. She seemed like a moderate on many issues.

Kintan · 30/04/2018 08:44

You think someone as sly and incompetent as AR should have stayed because she is a woman?!

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 08:46

I think anyone in her position would be been pressured to resign, and should have been.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 30/04/2018 08:47

Woman or not, it’s right that she has gone. She is appalling.

TheWizardofWas · 30/04/2018 08:50

Oh my heart bleeds. . .good riddance.

joystir59 · 30/04/2018 08:51

One down, one to go. The whole incompetent cruel racist lot of them should do us all a favour.

hackmum · 30/04/2018 08:53

Yes, a man in the same situation would have had to go. She deliberately lied - and more importantly was caught out in it. Her position was untenable.

The interesting question now is who's going to be the lucky person to be left holding the gender recognition brief.

JazzAnnNonMouse · 30/04/2018 08:55

2 separate things.

1)There should be more women in parliament.
2) not women like her, she's shit.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 08:56

Is this one of those things where people assume that feminists want all women to be given positions of power and responsibility regardless of competency/ethics?

hackmum · 30/04/2018 09:10

I think the OP may have been getting at the fact that some of the men in the cabinet (most notably Boris Johnson) have done worse things than Rudd and are still in place. But the problem for May is that she can't sack Johnson, as he will immediately start plotting from the backbenches to oust her. He's a shining example of what Lyndon Johnson said about Edgar Hoover, namely that it's better to have him inside the tent, pissing out, than outside the tent, pissing in.

LaGattaNera · 30/04/2018 09:11

I disagree - I think a male in same position would have be out too.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 30/04/2018 09:16

I think she kept her position longer as she was a potential leader in waiting

I was impressed by her in the Brexit debates

But she had to go