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A woman with serious violence issues jailed

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TerfAndSerf · 24/04/2018 22:39

MtF transgender Paris Valeta Bragazzi has been sent to a mens' prison after 'her' second assault on a police officer.

Bragazzi now has a total of 65 convictions.

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nauticant · 25/04/2018 08:37

What we need is a brave MP to read out a Parliamentary question listing a number of these violent men and then to ask whether their crimes were recorded as having been committed by a man or by a woman.

It would be illuminating for the answer to be "we don't have access to that data" or "we will not provide an answer".

But that's enough day-dreaming. A Parliamentary question of this kind would never be selected.

OlennasWimple · 25/04/2018 14:25

But that's enough day-dreaming. A Parliamentary question of this kind would never be selected

The topic is irrelevant in terms of selection - members who want to ask a question go into a ballot (yes, I know, how random that democratic accountability can be down to who came out of the hat first)

The issue is more about finding an MP who would be prepared to a) stand up and ask the question and b) would give up the opportunity to ask a question about another issue (particularly a constituency issue) in order to ask this one

OlennasWimple · 25/04/2018 14:25

An FoI request to the MoJ might be a better approach?

Popchyk · 25/04/2018 14:33

So this person had 40 previous convictions in November 2017.

And now has 65 convictions in April 2018.

Been a busy few months.

JustABrokenDoll · 25/04/2018 16:40

@Popchyk there seems to be a disparity in the reporting depending on which source is reporting it.

I read somewhere that Paris had 60+ charges against them but 40 convictions back in November. Others seem to be reporting them all as being convictions. Whichever it is, it's waaay too many.

SwissBall · 07/11/2024 10:46

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9039099/amp/Transgender-beautician-faces-jail-attacking-three-women-including-grandmother-London-Bridge.html

An update as Paris Bregazzi has been jailed again. In 2020 they were charged with attacking 3 women including at least one elderly woman. His barrister said he should be held in a women’s prison, I’m not sure if this happened.

He’s now been jailed for a racially aggravated beating against a woman.

www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/24703748.beautician-jailed-racially-aggravated-southwark-assault/

MarieDeGournay · 07/11/2024 11:11

FarFrom · 24/04/2018 22:50

Only saw the thread title and was going to just post something about how people hurt because they are hurt. (And then We hurt them more by punishment and prison rather than disentangling what’s going on)
Was going to post this before seeing it had anything to do with the obsession here with trans. This is my view about anyone who hurts- regardless of sex or gender identity. We as a society fail those at risk of perpetuating violence and those at risk of being the victim of violence (and the two are not exclusive).

I don't know if you're still around, FarFrom, but I'd like to give a different perspective on 'people hurt because they are hurt'.

People hurt because they choose to hurt. People who have been hurt know better than anyone what it's like, and can chose not to inflict it on others.

Take the example of sexual abuse of children: the majority of victims are girls; if hurt people hurt, you would expect the majority of perpetrators of sexual abuse to be women, whereas in fact only a tiny percentage of abusers are women. Women survivors of CSA are, in my experience, more likely to be campaigners against abuse of children than perpetrators of it.

I have evidence of this in my own life: my father was badly abused during a difficult and traumatic childhood. He was badly hurt, but he chose not to pass on his hurt. He chose to give his children the best life he could. There was no 'cycle of abuse' because he knew hurt, he knew pain, and chose not to inflict that on anyone, let alone his own or anyone else's children.
My father wasn't Superman, he was just an ordinary bloke from a very difficult background, so if he could chose not to pass on the hurt, so could any man.

I was also a victim of CSA - someone outside the family, no relation. So I am a hurt person, but I would rather die than inflict the hurt that I experienced on another child.

lcakethereforeIam · 07/11/2024 11:53

The comments from the lawyer at the end of the DM article, I know she's just doing her job but really. The rules were changed so that tw convicted of sexual and/or violent crimes would always go to a male prison. But there's a tw on remand, charged with murdering his partner with a samurai sword, who was in a women's prison the last I heard. This guy seems to have a problem with women, putting him in a women's prison would have been a nightmare for the other inmates and staff.

Also, the 1980s called, they want their lipliner back.

@MarieDeGournay Flowers very well said.

terryleather · 07/11/2024 12:02

Ereshkigal · 24/04/2018 22:44

"A woman has been jailed" fuck the fuck off.

What she said ^^

Ereshkigal · 07/11/2024 18:17

An update as Paris Bregazzi has been jailed again. In 2020 they were charged with attacking 3 women including at least one elderly woman. His barrister said he should be held in a women’s prison, I’m not sure if this happened.

He’s now been jailed for a racially aggravated beating against a woman.

I am truly astounded that this individual has committed further violence, this is my incredibly shocked face.

FranticFrankie · 08/11/2024 11:15

What a truly unpleasant individual
I don’t think I’d take beauty tips or advice from this person.
Needs counselling - urgently. It might help

NitroNine · 08/11/2024 18:19

Oh yes, let’s reduce sentencing for everyone who’s an issue with authority figures 🤦‍♀️ I know that was meant to be code for “my client is black & thus entitled to kick the shit out of the police because institutional racism” but ffs that’s such a grotesquely racist take in & of itself AND fucks over the majority of the black population who do not despite having every reason to be wary of our police respond to them with anything but respect.

This clatty article seems to frequent - & more pertinently, assault women in - my corner of the capital (despite being from Hackney) so I hope they stay locked up a long while. I mean, I’d hope that full stop, but 🫤

WhereYouLeftIt · 08/11/2024 21:19

So, these photos of Bregazzi - first one was from the BBC story in April 2018. Second one is from the Hackney Gazette story of 6th Nov 2024. Over six years have passed between these articles - but the photo used was from the same series of pictures taken in 2018. That's what caught my attention, the 2024 article using a 2018 photo and not one taken contemporaneously. Why not? He's 37 now, why still use photos of him at 30?

There does not seem to be any other photos of him - barring the third photo which accompanied the article in Ealing Today dated 28 Nov 2017 regarding throwing the off-duty PC onto the tracks. It looks to me to have been taken inside a train, and I wonder if it was taken (by a bystander?) at the time of the attack.

In a 2020 article in MyLondon (when he had quite the rampage), he's no longer referred to as a beautician but as a "sex worker suffering from crystal meth withdrawal", and they also used a 2018 photo (I have a vague memory that crystal meth users change appearance considerably). But here we are with a 2024 article calling him a beautician again (Is he? or is the journalist just lazy?) and using a 2018 photo.

I just think that given his ever-growing record of assault on random people in the street (and police officers), a contemporaneous photo is usual. A mugshot from an arrest is common. So why nothing more recent than 2018, which he'd obviously put on a show for? What does he look like now?

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Ereshkigal · 08/11/2024 21:24

There does not seem to be any other photos of him - barring the third photo which accompanied the article in Ealing Today dated 28 Nov 2017 regarding throwing the off-duty PC onto the tracks. It looks to me to have been taken inside a train, and I wonder if it was taken (by a bystander?) at the time of the attack.

He's really quite obviously male in that picture.

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