Surely this is the true face of transphobia

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I saw this on twitter a couple of days ago and it has been bothering me since. So much I went to find it again today it's under #peaktrans which the TRA's are currently trying to take over.

I want to put aside the woman vs trans for a moment, and look at how awful these TRA's are to trans people. To call them true scum whilst trying to appropriate their experiences.
To say anyone can be trans just by saying they are and not needing to have dysphoria is dangerous and feels like gender reassignment surgery could end up like any body modification, piercing, having implants for spikes tongue splitting etc.

I don't even know what point I am trying to make here really, just that this is what people are blindly going along with. They don't want to seem uncool, or to side with the bigots. Except as that shows the TRA's are the bigots, to mock people with a genuine dysphoria is no different to gay bashing or using racist terms.

Horrible. How utterly disgusting to call people truscum. There is no excuse for that is there.

Hopefully the self indulgence of people who "just wanna" and who mock people who are genuinely dysphoric and need to live, permanently and completely as the other sex, will show the wider public what the TRAs have done: from a situation where genuine transpeople were courteously accepted in safe space to a polarised position where TRAs demand that, mainly, male bodies are allowed in female spaces, women and girls have no RIGHT to exclude male bodies, whatever they are doing; lesbians have to accept sexual partners with penises or be called transphobes; gender confused children are medicalised and forced into a strict gender role, potentially removing a generation of G and L people. I could and probably will go on.

I think you make a very powerful point. In the same way that intersex people have been asked to be kept out of the current trans activism and not have their issues used by it, so I sense that people with gender dysphoria are also beginning to make this shift. I find it extraordinary that TRAs are abusive to those they call truscum, and think that more should be made of this point. So many people - as I used to - support the current trans activism because they think it’s the nice and forward thinking thing to do. The true ugly face of it needs to be exposed.

There is so much vile, offensive talk going around now that it's impossible to tell what is genuine hate and what is just pot-stirring to get reactions.
Best not to let it get to you.

Except as that shows the TRA's are the bigots, to mock people with a genuine dysphoria is no different to gay bashing or using racist terms.

Yep

You can't be one voice and one message unless you agree what that message is and how you are going to voice it.

How widespread is that kind of shite? It's utterly insane
Do they really expect to be taken seriously?

Hasn't Twitter been dubbed 'TransTwitter' or something. It's where they live.
You absolutely find more transphobia amoungst these TRA twats on Twitter than you do here or other feminist groups.

You don't need dysphoria to be trans. That's right! All you need is your don a dress every weekend and steal your neighbours knickers. Can we kindly go back to recognising people's sex now?

Precisely OP, that's what I see too. These are the real transphobes. They obscure the genuine needs of people with dysphoria and appropriate their experiences to advance an agenda. What is that agenda though? Is it really MRA? It seems a very convoluted way to go about things if so. And what about people like Stephen Whittle (transman), who have been pivotal in pushing this forward? He describes having gender dysphoria before transitioning. Is making the umbrella so wide a way of increasing the number of people affected so that they become politically effective maybe?

That's appalling.

It's beginning to sound like the appropriation of trans?!

This is exactly what genuine transsexuals are afraid of, I think they have good reason to be scared. As JayceeDove has explained, this new wave of TRA goes against all those transwomen know and have experienced.

This is just a group of people screaming, that they are going to do what they like, no matter the cost to the rest of women and we had better just get used to it.

What a lovely screenshot! Typical TRA stuff really, showing the duplicitous nature of 'trans activism'. This tweet assures 'wannabees' that they too can adopt the trans label even if they "wanna be something else". However, they are quick to play the No True Transwoman card if one of their number commits femicide. But then also go on to support the lifers in jail for committing femicide/homicide/rape (as True Transwomen, in need of 'support').

And that in a nutshell, is why it is difficult to put forth GC analysis, when the goalposts shift from tweet to tweet.

In the same way that we can't meaningfully have women's rights if the word 'woman' becomes defined as 'anyone who says they're a woman' (i.e undefined) , there cannot meaningfully be rights for trans people if 'trans' means whatever the heck you want it to.

Be any gender you want. Label yourself as you wish, but please don't expect everyone else to accept your (non) definitions.

Maybe we should refer to them as MTRA (male tra) so that we can differentiate those activists from the genuine transsexuals?

It reduces the struggle of people with a genuine issue to that of a bandwagon that anyone can join and diminishes that issue until it loses any meaning.

It's all of a piece

Misogynists claiming to be women
Homophobes claiming to be 'queer'
Transphobes claiming to be trans

I don't think these people have anything to do with any of us

This is why the whole GRA thing needs repealing, and why sex and gender as two entirely different concepts need defining, underlining, reiterating in law.

The crazy TRAs can have and do whatever they want with gender. They can play with it, stretch it, make it into a spectrum, whatever - but sex is unchangeable and sex is what needs to be clearly enshrined in law, to protect women and girls.

For those with gender dysphoria, I would hope that if GNC were a protected characteristic, this would be enough to protect them, but of course they need to be consulted, given a voice and dignity, and not be insulted with vile phrases like ‘truscum’.

I have here a screenshot of a Facebook post from a proper, "old skool", post-op, male-to-female trans-sexual (truscum), stating that she (I allow "she" for the post ops!) had been ejected from the "Labour Against Transphobia" (LAT) secret Facebook group within a week of its inception. They must have suddenly realised what she was (she hadn't yet posted anything) and didn't want her sort in there.

LAT members include Heather Peto and Lily Madigan (who is an Admin/Mod). Clearly they consider themselves to be the "right kind" of trans person whilst the genuine, post-op type is persona non grata in their group!

PS learn about the group here:

Truscum is a vile term. It is bizarre that they'll merrily call fellow trans people that and yet find moderate debate on FWR transphobic.

I sometimes wonder though whether it's (with some people) a case of you say potayto I say potarto with GC/trans. I am wearing gender-neutral clothing and no makeup, and I have a bit of facial hair. I'm not calling myself trans, but perhaps if I'd been born 20 years later I might be? Because I don't conform to the gender stereotype associated with my sex.

Like the PP above, I'm happy for anyone to do whatever they like with gender, and present however they like. As long as the law recognizes biological sex and acts accordingly.

So, question - who do TRAs not dislike? There's uppity women on the hate list, obviously, and transsexuals, and drag queens (Glasgow Pride), and older women in general, and lesbians.

At this rate the non-blocked list will end up consisting of 3 female students who're too scared to disagree with them and their mate Dave from year 5.

AngryAttackKittens, my reading of it is that all men are OK, but all women are on permanent probation. Put a foot wrong (even if you're a female trans-ally) and you are outcast and the enemy.

And transwomen with a GRC have joined the enemy camp?

"Truscum" is basically an encoding or synonym for "traitor", isn't it? So yes, I think so! Moving too close to womanhood for comfort, perhaps.

Follow #TSRaincrew on Twitter for those transgender people who are challenging this.

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MacaroonMama

"This is why the whole GRA thing needs repealing, and why sex and gender as two entirely different concepts need defining, underlining, reiterating in law."

Yes! I have been arguing this for WEEKS. This is absolutely crucial. It would solve this problem and end this war.