have I got this right? (girl guides again)

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I'm sorry, it's another girl guides thread, but I was eating my tuna sandwich and suddenly had this thought.

Some teenage boys become girls for the purposes of the Girl Guides' current guidance.

Contrary to what I had once naively assumed, many transwomen are still predominantly sexually attracted to women. I only realised this once a close trans friend explained that actually she isn't into men.

So these teenagers who have become girls (from the Guides' point of view) are sexually attracted to girls, and presumably have all the usual desires to explore that most teenagers have.

And then they share a tent.

And the girls are not allowed to say anything.

Please tell me this is wrong.

Of course there should be sensitive supportive policies for everyone, including the small number of children suffering from gender dysphoria who feel as though they would like to live as the opposite sex.

Those policies need to consider everyone's needs and rights. Biological males do NOT have the right to undress and sleep with biological females without the females consent. Policies and the law MUST reflect this. In our schools, public areas, prisons, care homes, swimming pools, youth organisations. Everywhere.

I want to know what the safe guarding issues are that require males to be provided with separate sleeping and bathroom provision. And why don't these safeguarding issues apply to those males' who believe themselves to be women or girls?

Because if they believe themselves to be women/girls then they are actually women/girls. Literally. And therefore there is no problem. Because they believe it so must we. No matter what we see or feel.

That link from YetAnotherSparticus is incredible. GG have asked, and had answered, some very important questions. A few I have selected at random (though I could quote any of their figures, it's a good survey):

67% of young women agree that popular culture tells boys that they are entitled to coerce or abuse their girlfriends.

Which is why having a boy-free space is good for many girls.

25% of 11-16-year-olds say worry over potential sexual harassment makes them consider whether or not to speak out in class

So guides should be a safe space to speak

64% of girls aged 11-16 say that teachers or staff, sometimes or always tell girls to ignore incidents of sexual harassment.

Girls should presumably also ignore any feelings of discomfort they may have at having to change in front of and sleep with boys.

One of their conclusions in "Girlguiding’s Girls Matter campaign" demands that schools "take a zero tolerance approach to sexual bullying and harassment." and yet they are happy to effectively force girls to accept boys in their spaces; their teaching on consent is a waste of time if girls are not allowed to NOT consent.

Thanks for putting it more eloquently than I could Mary!