Two men write a song about being violent to women who won't do as they are told.

[OvaHere]

In the wake of the conviction of Tara Wood.

You can expect to receive a 'brick to the teeth' and be 'curb stomped' if you disagree with men.

I think the T in my keyboard has hit peak trans... so many typos...

There's a certain glee to a lot of the male ranting about TERFs that's hard to miss. They've been waiting for an opportunity to lash out at women and they're not about to miss this chance.

How safe would you feel around not just the men who wrote this song, but the ones in the audience, or who liked the video? All that rage bubbling away just waiting for an opportunity to explode. Like standing next to a volcano that has fists.

“expected to be angry at that but it was just a bit silly.

Reminded me of Phoebe from Friends, when she got would get angry and make up terrible songs.“

Rofl

Rofl Lass

They do have a song called I Love my Dog - which initially was disappointing to find but reassuringly has the line "I love my dog but the rest of you can fuck right off"

Welcome MadBadDaddy.

I am still laughing at the musical critique (certain terms I won’t google as It might spoil my morning)

It's hilarious how relentlessly negative they are. They need a song called Every Silver Lining Had Its Cloud.

Nextloorejext and Hypermice you have absolutely hit the nail on the head. This is the result of giving people other than white men a little bit more of the pie. When all you have ever known is privilege, equality feels like oppression etc.

I know this is out and out hate speech, but I say let is stay in YouTube. Let people see the absolute fuckwitter, this kind of shite will peak trans everyone. Let the sun shine on it, let people come to Mumsnet and see for themselves what we have been talking about.

The people I actually feel most sorry for are the regular transsexual people who have been living their lives perfectly peacefully and happily for years, and have had things ruined by these absolute twats.

I am also trying to imagine the creative process by which it came about, like them sitting in a room, playing around with lyrics, seeing what sounds good.

'Oooooh yeah, brick to the teeth, love it. Right what else can we think of that's reeeeeeaaaaaalllllllyyyyy violent, Ooooh yes a kerb stomp, but I cant spell so ill write curb'.

They also don't know the difference between your and you're.

If this is in the wake of the conviction of Wood for violently assaulting Maria McLachlan, then the knowledge that the judge commented upon Maria 'misgendering' her male assailant turns this into a targeted threat of violence towards Maria to get a 'brick in the teeth' for her 'misgendering'.

The fact that they are crowing over a woman being beaten isn't enough. The TRAs are emboldened and feel they can threaten and carry out their threats with little more than a financial slap on the wrist that they publicise as 'victory'.

I use pronouns to reflect the biological sex of the subject. I will continue to do so. I do not recognise gender as real, and I will not be forced to pretend men can be the same sex as me. These thugs call this 'misgendering'.

Apparently these men want to brick me in that teeth because I 'deserve it'.

Which police force do I report them too?

"Your" being so mean, Ellen! Important musicians like these don't have time for silly little things like spelling, or grammar, or considering whether or not it's really appropriate to encourage their audience to commit crimes.

Yes, I guess these are people who use 'she' for someone who is most definitely 'he', so we shouldn't be surprised that they can't get 'your' and 'you're' correct.

Did anyone watch the fab lecture by Mary Beard about the way in women have been silenced?

She essentially says that all hatred towards women on twitter etc is directed towards speaking / mouth / shut those women up. Does "brick to the teeth" and "kerb stomping" ring any bells then? No physical violence threatened to break the arms but rather make it that we cannot speak out.

Hi all thanks for the and earlier

The 'TRA's , and especially these bozos, do not represent the entire Trans community. I don't want to silence women, or bully or hurt anyone, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Lately I'm ashamed of what's being done and said in my name and then this video shows up, and tries to turn it into entertainment and lolz.

A few years ago, if I, as a Transperson, feeling morbidly curious one night, wanted to go looking for genuine hate online I really didn't have to look far. (TBH, most of the insults were nothing worse than I'd thought about myself at bad times). The difference now is that instead of some radical echo chamber message board out in the sticks, I just have to read the Metro or the Mail. I think that a lot of Trans-persons feel like I do a lot of the time - vulnerable, impressionable, fearful, and lately, in the Spotlight of Public Opinion. When did a struggle become a fight? When did a respectful plea become an entitled demand?

You can see how easily Trolled we are. My worry is that people like me are being conned or exploited by people who are not at all like me.

Welcome MadBadDaddy thank you for your support.

I think all of us here know it isn't easy for trans individuals who hold independent views to navigate this debate.

There are a number of trans posters here regularly who are not happy with much of the activism done in their name.

Since I'm at work Mad I'll offer you rather than

We've got quite a few regular trans posters on here who all say much the same as you: when did the TRAs take over, why are they being listened to in preference to the large majority of sane trans people out there, and how do we avoid their nuttiness leading to a backlash?

Like many other feminists on here I'm hoping we can have a reasonable debate and shore up trans people's rights to live free from harassment while maintaining women's rights, before things lurch to one extreme or the other - either the TRAs' position becomes enshrined in law and we lose all rights to sex-based protections which women need, or the far right stages a backlash which leads to massive discrimination and harassment of trans people.

Cheers OvaHere, I feel welcome.

I usually haunt various Trans-boards but it was only after coming here the other day and seeing posters like YetAnotherTranswoman that I realised it wasn't just me that felt this way.

Welcome @MadBadDaddy nice to have you here

Men hate women. This is a new way to hate us. Left wing men have always needed us to keep back and quiet but back up their needs in numbers and votes.

Once again it's those evil feminists who get threatened with violence. Meanwhile the men who actually murder trans people aren't even worth a mention. How unsurprising.

moonlight1705
She [Mary Beard] essentially says that all hatred towards women on twitter etc is directed towards speaking / mouth / shut those women up. Does "brick to the teeth" and "kerb stomping" ring any bells then? No physical violence threatened to break the arms but rather make it that we cannot speak out.

That is a very useful comment, I hadn't noticed that before but it is very revealing wrt this video.

They go low, we go high.
To be fair this is so, so low that 'going high' in this instance wouldn't require much at all.

Me three re American History X.

Incitement to violence against a group of women, and if it gets taken down by youtube they'll claim it's because they are so, like, subversive, and that YT hates trans people.

"They go low, we go high.
To be fair this is so, so low that 'going high' in this instance wouldn't require much at all."

Usually, I'm perfectly happy with the TGLWGH - for everything Paris/Lily/India (etc) say.

But for this I make an exception.

It must be mocked and ridiculed.

Did anyone watch the fab lecture by Mary Beard about the way in women have been silenced?

no but you know we need a link now.