*W*hat *A*bout *W*omen *A*nd *G*irls....

[R0wantrees]

WAWAG?

This is at the heart of concerns and motivation for posts.

This is not about being 'anti' anything....

We need to be much clearer and insistent about this!

I was just about to ask.
I 'joked' yesterday that actually, nice girls come last. No one understood the joke.

Yes, I like it.

I like it very much.
It’s a campaign and a side of this “debate” that is very much needed.

Count me in

WOMEN have to give up their protected spaces
WOMEN have to be understanding
WOMEN have to accept that the word 'woman' means whatever men want it to mean
WOMEN have to accept it's pointless aiming for the top in athletics from now on

Apparently women have lost. This is not something I accept.

It's all bullshit and I'm so angry about it that my DC keep telling me I'll have a stroke

Love love love it, as I said on the other thread. What is missing is any effort to consider women and girls.

Woman is now fancy dress.

So much energy is being devoted to defending/challenging/questioning issues that affect people who are transgender. Surely this way we can instead focus and encourage others to also ask 'what about women and girls?'

Helen Saxby writes...
"Do you think women and girls have got too many rights? Should some of these be rolled back now? Are we too equal? Too safe? Too represented? Too visible? Too powerful? Do you believe there should now be a reduction in women’s rights? Has it all gone too far? Are women actually the oppressors now? Would you support policies which would curtail some of those rights? Do you believe that women should have fewer rights?

Well, if you do, you’re in good company. It’s not just Men’s Rights groups who agree with you: there are increasing numbers of public institutions and businesses who believe that women and girls are so equal now that we no longer need the legislative and social protections which were fought for and won by previous feminists. We are so safe now we no longer need the provisions in law intended to ensure our safety. We have such a major voice now that we no longer need the mechanisms intended to increase our political representation. We have so much recognition for our work that we no longer need women-only prizes and awards. We are so equal in opportunity to men and boys that we no longer need any special treatment to level the playing field.
Do you agree? Lots of people do.

Women have so many rights in fact that we can afford to share them. We are not yet required by law to share them, but a combination of female socialisation, the post-Trans Inquiry Guide for Service Providers, and a rampant disregard for the Equality Act from trans advocacy groups, means that we are being compelled to share them. Or bullied into sharing them. Or coerced, or guilt-tripped, or emotionally manipulated. There are many ways."

notthenewsinbriefs.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/have-women-and-girls-got-too-many-rights/

Sex Matters was started by an MNer.

I very much like this!

Can anyone plot, as a girl when you really noticed the differences in sex and it dawned on you they would impact you for life.

I remember being in primary school around the age of 8/9 and a girl in my class started her period. She had a lot of issues with dealing with it and she obviously had troubles dealing with pads etc. so she was very self conscious. The boys really teased her about it (we got dressed for PE in our classroom and she had to sit out swimming) to the point the teacher had to give us a lengthy talk about periods.

I recall thinking “so she (the girl’s name) and all of us girls have to bleed and be laughed at and they just get away with laughing?” I was outraged.

I was constantly worried my period would start and I would have to deal with in in a room full of boys whilst trying to change into my gym leotard.

I remember (in about year 6) the girls wearing bras being teased for it, and having their bra straps pinged (bloody painful actually).

I was at an all girls school for secondary - and I'm quite thankful for that - a valuable single sex space. At least during school hours we were protected from boys leering at us. I used to get abusive and sexually harassing remarks shouted at me when I walked home. I was groped by a group of schoolboys walking home too. I never told anyone.

I'm waiting for the day my old girl's school gives a place to a "boy who identifies as a girl" - thus taking that place away from a girl. The rate things are going, it will happen.

Sex Matters was started by an MNer.

Find out about Sex Matters here: www.sexmatters.org.uk/sexmatters.pdf

@SexMattersUK on Twitter

Happy to join forces!

Sex Matters and WAWAG would be an excellent combination.

SexMatters is fantastic... I'm completely on board!
I wasn't proposing a campaign... just a way of re-framing discussion and perhaps an alternative approach which re-centres women & girls! I finally worked out best to approach my MP etc... which is simplistically,
" yes... and what about women & girls?"

We already follow each other on Twitter SexMatters

I've just registered @WAWAG_UK on twitter. Will happily hand it over if anyone wants it but wanted to get in there quickly in case TRAs did!. WAWAG itself is already taken by some bloke who talks to Indonesian people. That account seems to be dormant.

I think it's good to have it on hold if anyone does want to use it as a campaign name. It's such a good premise.

Fantastic!

Erishkigal would you be able to write and pin a tweet that outlines the basics of what the acronym stands for, and use the hashtag #WAWAG to get it up and running?- just about to follow @WAWAG_UK now.

"No results for @WAWAG_UK"