Ulster Rugby Rape Trial - Not guilty to all charges

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Verdict just returned
Not guilty to all four accused, all unanimous decisions.

You seem to be confused as to whether these are attractive and successful men or completely thick as pig shit bell ends with horrific attitudes. For clarity it's the successful bit that makes them attractive alone.

The men in this case are not even objectively that attractive. I am absolutely sure that were they window cleaners without access to VIP parties.etc they would be much less the "top shaggers" they claim. Why does being a successful sportsman make you more attractive btw ? Is it a shared love of rugby ?

An earlier poster said that the idea women lavish attention on these types of men, despite their obvious failings as human beings - was a myth, that these meetings were presumably circumstantial. I can only imagine she is not serious.

I don't know the reason for this, women do not get judged by on how successful they are relative to other women, men will find a McDonald's worker just as sexy as a top lawyer.

It would be fantastic if when this type of horrific thing happens women would avoid rugger types or sundry other successful but otherwise entirely unremarkable sportsmen. But that's not going to happen is it?

Men do judge this behaviour whether you think they should or not. No self respecting man is going to want a girlfriend who spent much of her youth hanging about posh bars hoping to meet and fuck d list celebs sorry to say.

So what are you saying ?!

That because they are merely average looking, any woman who approached them deserved to be raped.

I hope i am misunderstanding.

There is a huge middle ground between not choosing a woman as a girlfriend and raping her.

The women not "chosen" would just prefer to be not raped.

Wow.

What in the name of arse was the relevance of any of that spittle-flecked diatribe, word?
Other than to demonstrate how much you dislike young women. Speaking for myself, I’d already clocked that.

Tempus, no I have made that quite clear.

Women are free to behave as they see fit without fear of rape, or they should be.

Men can judge women as shallow and vain and not worthy of their respect as they see fit also.

“I have made that quite clear” yet the only possible relevance of your deeply unpleasant posts is to insinuate that in fact some women deserve rape.
Or are you merely wittering irrelevantly?

Wow. You're some fine citizen.

It would be fantastic if when this type of horrific thing happens women would avoid rugger types or sundry other successful but otherwise entirely unremarkable sportsmen. But that's not going to happen is it?

Unfortunately Schrodinger's rapist does not come with a type label printed on their forehead and even the most despicable can usually pretend to be a decent human being for as much as an hour at a time.

Repeating the 1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do, over and over is not going to convince anyone that the uterus is a detection device.

"For clarity it's the successful bit that makes them attractive alone" - and you know this is true because...?

"I don't know the reason for this, women do not get judged by on how successful they are relative to other women, men will find a McDonald's worker just as sexy as a top lawyer." - again, this is your opinion, dropped in as fact. You have no idea whether this is or isn't the case. And you have made no case at all for why this particular comment is even relevant.

"It would be fantastic if when this type of horrific thing happens women would avoid rugger types or sundry other successful but otherwise entirely unremarkable sportsmen. " - what an odd thing to wish for. You seem to be suggesting that successful sportspeople don't deserve to have relationships with anyone. And that women should as a general rule avoid any relationship with a successful man.

You are clearly judging women's behaviour and your opinion is that young women are somehow permanently damaged by being sexually promiscuous in their youth, or even just from attempting to be promiscuous. Why do you think that? What is about that behaviour that you believe justifies men treating women with contempt and being disrespectful towards them?

Oh come on wise, men hang around beautiful girls, they leave their wives for younger, more beautiful women and totally ignore or else humiliate women who are not deemed beautiful!

What's the difference? So some young women find success attractive and are drawn to successful men....well far, far more men are drawn to women for their looks and their looks alone!!

And another petition: This one calls for the Irish Rugby Football Union to review the players involved

www.change.org/p/irfu-conduct-a-review-of-jackson-olding-macilroy-and-harrison-s-behaviour/psf/promote_or_share?share=false

I believe her

"Not worth of respect" in my mind means something like ignoring someone trying to talk to you, or walking away from them mid-sentence. Not inserting body parts into their orifices without express consent that they wanted this to happen

Exactly Olennas!! What kind of men are these creatures?

Wise in trying to minimize men's evil behaviour towards young women, you just make men sound like demonic abominations who should be locked up in a zoo-like compound for women's protection.

Women don’t owe men anything, if more women want to have a relationship with a rich successful man than a poor or average man then thems the breaks. The fact that so many inadequate men manage to have wives and girlfriends indicates that it is not generally the case that women are rejecting all men that aren’t top class sportsmen left, right and centre. No one deserves to be left with blunt force trauma and heavy bleeding after an encounter with a man. If it had been done with any other body part it would be gbh, but if you do it with a penis, well, who can say what happened?

mikado1 big rally in Dublin in her support.

Anyone go to that rally.

Well done.

This article by the best selling paper in Ireland (republic) sums up what many of us are thinking without being libellous:

Two tiered morality
m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/martina-devlin-twotier-morality-means-girls-face-an-impossible-list-of-dos-and-donts-36757069.html

Thanks for that article

I don't see how Schrödingers rapist applies here..how many times do we need to read about the behaviour and attitudes these men have before people stop expressing shock that they have no respect for women ? It's well known.

By "these men", who do you mean?

Top shaggers, rugger buggers etc.

@wordtothewise what a pointless mangent you seem determined to take this thread down. Women throwing themselves at famous slebs of whatever flavour has precisely knack all to do with rape.

I'm assuming you are a man, and feel personally slighted that women aren't throwing themselves at you in all your "nice guy" splendiferousness. Who some women choose to associate or not associate with is none of your buisness. It is a basic freedom, that is to say freedom of association.

I find your whole line of reasoning both flawed and deeply repugnant, that somehow because you feel some women throw themselves at famous men that somehow justifies these famous men's utterly dehumanizing and reprehensible attitude towards ALL women quite frankly ridiculous.

We are all ultimately responsible for out own attitudes and biases, and that goes double if that attitude is bigoted, harmful and unpleasant in nature. There is a direct correlation between men who use dehumanizing and unpleasant language about women, and the mentality of a rapist.

The successful ones in the VIP area.