Another prominent T claiming to be a little bit autistic

[Autisticappropriation]

I know this is my sole topic of conversation but it’s so bloody important that biological women are not erased from the autistic spectrum by biological men claiming to be autistic. It’s hard enough to get diagnosed if you’re female without having diagnostic criteria appropriated and dictated by males. It took decades for the male brain aspect of autism to be binned.

A prolific twitter transperson is now claiming to be “a bit autistic”. The fact this person is an absolute walloper doesn’t really help and it’s entirely wrong to claim you’re a bit autistic - you either are or you aren’t. Just like sex you don’t get to pick and choose which bits of autism you get to experience. It forms your entire experience of the world. You cannot be a little bit autistic just like
You cannot be female with a penis.

I can’t talk about this on autistic twitter as so many have been brainwashed? Manipulated? I’m not sure what, but a certain contingent of trans & autistic advocates get very aggressive and persistent if you disagree with them and I can’t face the onslaught of trans and autistic hate that would ensue.

Just needed to rant about this.

I've just read LMs twitter and it's so exhausting. How do these people ever get anything done??

I thought autism was on a spectrum, including people who have some traits but not enough to meet the diagnostic threshold? And the wider autism phenotype, so family members may have a trait or two.
I'm diagnosed myself but present as neurotypical so the usual male-centric tests picked up nothing.
I think Lily is a fool to say "a bit autistic" but I wouldn't be surprised if they'd done an online test or something that led to that statement... ie. they are autistic but not actually diagnosed.

I've just Googled 'schizotypal' and the symptoms are:

Symptoms

People with this disorder may be severely disturbed and might appear schizophrenic. More commonly, however, patient beliefs (aliens, witchcraft, possessing a "sixth sense") are stranger than their behavior, and may often keep them isolated from normal relationships. Hallucinations, however, are not a common symptom.

Other symptoms include:

Discomfort in social situations
Odd beliefs, fantasies or preoccupations
Odd behavior or appearance
Odd speech
Difficulty making/keeping friendships
Inappropriate display of feelings
Suspiciousness or paranoia

www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/schizotypal-personality-disorder

I'll refrain from commenting further ...

I don’t think any further comment is required, yet. I know he’s a dick, but he is so painfully unaware that I find it both astonishing that the Labour Party allow such a vulnerable individual to represent them, and so utterly sad that he hasn’t ever got the help he needs. Which should have steered him well away from holding any office until he was more stable and mature (by which point he would never had been elected as he doesn’t have the intellectual chops required.)
The Labour Party are using him as a vote lure for the woke. It’s pretty horrific.

The trouble with people like this is that they’re nothing. They’re dull, run of the mill people, with nothing distinctive about them at all. Average, dull, boring, nothing to look at, stupid and unlikely to ever achieve anything of note whatsoever.

They have to adopt these identities in order to feel unique and special. Like they matter.

But they don’t.

There is no way you would confuse schizotypal personality disorder with schizophrenia if you had been diagnosed with the latter. A friend from school has schizophrenia and he struggles immensely to live a normal life. I am just surprised that this diagnosis has not been made public before- e.g. in LM's fight with their secondary school over the uniform. Self-diagnosis as schizotypal is something very very different. I am unconvinced that you would get an NHS diagnosis so quickly for something like that.

The 'lesbian' thing is not brand new info, despite what LM says. LM said they were in a relationship with a woman several months ago, so I don't know why all the 'i'm coming out' stuff now.

missmoneyplant you only receive a diagnosis of autism if you meet the diagnostic criteria which includes the triad of impairment.

Having the odd trait does not make you autistic. It is not a continuum - which I’m assuming you meant instead of spectrum, which is something different.

Autism is a very disabling condition and causes endless stress and difficulty for the autistic person.

It is not a cute label to be appropriated in order to pretend you’re speshul.

I hate that phrase. Usually it means that they have one or two characteristics which isn't the same thing at all. It's like people who like cleaning saying they have a bit of ocd. It minimizes the problems that people who actually have asd or ocd have to cope with

My autism means I can’t get through an hour of the day without thinking I’d be better off dead and my autistic son can’t be in school due to bullying.

LM has previously claimed to have been involved in a study that compared the brain patterns of trans adolescents. Wouldn't Lily's various conditions have skewed any results?

Autism is a spectrum but not one that goes from 'none' to 'lots' so you can be just a little bit. It is a spectrum in verbal ability, language ability, social imagination, etc. But you ate either 'on the spectrum' or not. A good explanation here: the-art-of-autism.com/understanding-the-spectrum-a-comic-strip-explanation/

Autistic people have an above average suicide rate and end up dying prematurely because we can’t access health care and often don’t realise we’re even ill. We often can’t communicate with healthcare providers either and we’re bullied and judged everywhere we go.

Lily posted a picture of a hospital letter fairly recently with some diagnoses. It was depression and self harm, no mention of schizophrenia.

Lily lies and lies and lies.

What is especially weird is the crossover between symptoms of schizotypal/schizoid PD/schizoaffective disorder and ASD.

I know as part of my ASD diagnosis, they had to rule out the others in order to confirm it...

Being wrongly diagnosed with something else pre ASD diagnosis is common. Being diagnosed with both schizophrenia and ASD is very very very rare

My mistake, it was a treatment plan. But these are dosages for depression and irritability/aggression, not schizophrenia (the starting dose for that would be at least 4 times the amount).

I have a genuine question related to all of this - if we reject the idea of blue and pink brains (and thus you can't have the wrong brain in the wrong body) how does that work with the different presentation of autism in male and female people? Or isn't that not considered accurate any more?

Or...

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

@Daffydil I think it's based on how boys and girls are socialised differently from birth. Girls are trained harder in empathy, eye contact etc so more of it sticks than it would with a boy who had the same level of autism but was given less empathy training and encouraged to do more autism friendly tasks instead (trains, lego etc)

Are you Did you miss the bit where I said I'm autistic too? I deal with suicidal thoughts all the time too, though not caused by my autism but the treatment of me by others. I've low social worth cos I don't play their stupid social hierarchy games. I'll probably never be lucky enough to have children either as indicated worthless to this world.
But I DO present as neurotypical, can't figure out where I am on the triad of impairments. They took ages diagnosing me though.

*as I'm worthless
(Fucking autocorrect)