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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"International men's day" post

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TheBrilloPad · 14/03/2018 21:26

A fb relative (student - university age) posted the post below re: "international men's day".

Would you comment something? Ignore it? It angered me and I can't articulate why clearly.

"International men's day" post
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jellyfrizz · 15/03/2018 08:21

*Because the tone seems to be comparing men with women, rather than just focusing on issues that affect men.

Is it? The UK website doesn't seem that way to me- it doesn't really mention women.*

It is absolutely comparing with women which is what is makes it feel a bit 'we are the worst off, not women'. Otherwise who makes up the other % for those stats? Longer in prison than who? It's not comparing with, say, dogs is it?

Whinberry · 15/03/2018 08:22

Whoever wrote those stats ignored the first word on the poster - 'international'.

Livinglifepeachy · 15/03/2018 08:25

Are you all against men's day? If women have a day why can't men have a day?

Not trying to cast any aspersions I don't think it's very fair.

BertrandRussell · 15/03/2018 08:35

I am delighted that men have a day. I would be even more delighted if they used it to talk about issues and look for solutions rather than to bash women- in particular feminists - with!

upsideup · 15/03/2018 08:45

I would be even more delighted if they used it to talk about issues and look for solutions rather than to bash women- in particular feminists - with!

How are women being bashed?
I agree looking for solutions would be best but you could say the same for IWD, there is an awful lot of talking about issues, getting angry, sharing stats and raising awareness but possible solutions and making progress was also lacking.
I think the purpose of both days is more just to raise awareness of issue, which is all this poster is doing.

BertrandRussell · 15/03/2018 08:49

“I think the purpose of both days is more just to raise awareness of issue, which is all this poster is doing.”

But they are misleading stats. And longer than what? More than who?

jellyfrizz · 15/03/2018 09:33

Are you all against men's day? If women have a day why can't men have a day?

Of course not, it's just that the way the poster is presented is divisive. If it said (for example, completely made up stats) 5% of men commit suicide, 10% of men are homeless etc. then there's no problem.

Patodp · 15/03/2018 09:52

The poster wasn't circulating on International men's day.

It was circulating on International Women's Day.

I think that says is all.

Livinglifepeachy · 15/03/2018 17:52

Ah OK thanks for the clarification x

Ekphrasis · 15/03/2018 19:37

A brief google says that the % of male victims of DV hovers between 19-25 %

(Apologies if already pointed out, not rtft)

FrustratedDotCom · 15/03/2018 20:43

Statistics of violence do not take into account any more than five episodes. So if a man attacks a woman on 20 separate occasions, only 5 are recorded. If we changed the way this was recorded, the % of violence against men would go down to about 1%

Ekphrasis · 15/03/2018 21:05

Wow.

Ekphrasis · 15/03/2018 21:06

Makes a mockery of the statistics.

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