TIM behaving abominably at IWD protest - videos

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Watch this aggressive, petulant TIM throw their weight around at a IWD march.

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Is it just me or did that other woman come up to try and diffuse the situation by asking the women to be more considerate of his feelings? I felt sorry for him up to the point when he started shouting shut the fuck up and trying to physically attack the women's signs. And then he had the absolute gall to say that he felt threatened because the signs were there when he was the one who was shouting aggressively, swearing and trying to hit the women signs and didn't he hit someone's phone out of her hand? Playing the victim.

The only difference between what these women on the video were doing and what we all do when we fight gender stereotypes online is that they're doing it in person and standing up for what they believe in which women have been conditioned not to do and I don't think he knew what to do about it because he didn't expect to come up against women who would argue back.

He sounds like my children bickering (with swear words)

"This is an ethical space" = "I was sitting here first!"

"You are invalidating me" - "He just called me names!"

And his arguments have as much logic and reason as my 7yo. Including resorting to "shut the fuck up!" when there's nothing else to say (she sticks her tongue out instead - it's the same sentiment)

The point at which someone said that person sounded like a man was quite a way in, after that person had thrashed their sign at women and was verbally abusive. It didn't make the situation any calmer, but it was perfectly legit.

In other news, I know what sign I'm now making for the march this Saturday.

Is it just me or did that other woman come up to try and diffuse the situation by asking the women to be more considerate of his feelings? Yes she did. And then she or another woman asked if he would like to come stand with her (she may have said 'feel safer') and he went "Hmmm! No!" He actually Hmmed, rolled his eyes upwards and thought, then said no... he wanted the signs to be removed.

He made deliberate choices...

As far as I can read the situation, there are a bunch of "transwomen are women" types to the left, and some "radfem" types standing behind the TIM. He plainly states that he moved in front of these women to "disrupt" them and block their signs. The pacifying handmaiden is trying to diffuse the situation by moving him back to the group on the left.

His sign reads TRANSWOMEN ARE WOMEN. It appears that was there with the singular aim of provoking women on IWD.

Yep. That's what I saw and heard. And is why I can't feel sorry for him... just irritated by him!

Where are all the lib fems who constantly start threads/come to threads crying about 'transphobia' and how trans people 'just want to live their lives'?!

How on earth can anyone feel sorry for that pillock with his 'bitches' talk and telling the women, on IWD, to 'shut the fuck up'??

I also thought the woman was antagonising him from the first video but the second video shows that this occurs after he has hit out at them with his sign (so actual literal physical violence ) so I lost all sympathy

Why did the signs offend the trans woman if the trans woman believes they are a woman then the signs about men's feelings doesn't apply to them? It really is like toddlers having a tantrum. An aggressive man repeatedly shouting I am a woman should peak trans a lot of people.

My spell check annoyingly puts a space between trans and woman it gives me the rage it should read transwoman

Oh for goodness sake. I can't believe sympathy for this knob. I'm done with all this "womanly" compassion, empathy, give them the benefit of the doubt attitude.

Be sure that hell will freeze over before you see any sign of compassion, empathy or giving benefit of the doubt from TRAs like this one.

His actions were deliberate, provocative and done to make a point on IWD. He got more than he bargained for. Tough.

If you can't stand the heat trans woman, stay out of the kitchen.

He's a prime example of an NPD TIM - exactly who you don't want in women's spaces - notice how he escalates when challenged - that's an abuser in thin disguise - what a deep voice you have Grandma…...

I read a report earlier today that suggested after this situation a larger number of people objecting to the signs came and surrounded the women so in terms of intimidation, this increased significantly and very much in one direction! (cant confirm or locate this at the mo, sorry)

Thanks TERFragetteCity - that is wonderful video. I am totally a radical feminist then

Probably escalated because that man was playing the victim and acting like they were ganging up on him.

So he smacked their sign, told them it didn't belong there and then seemed confused as to whether he is a man or a woman. Then told lesbians they don't know what lesbians are. What an utter cock.

I don’t feel sorry for him - try watching all of the videos posted if you do.
In one of them he tells the women (all lesbians) “you don’t even know what a fucking lesbian is”.
No wonder those women were angry.
Also, I’m in awe of their arm muscles. They held up those signs with both arms for the full four minutes.

If it looks like a bloke, insults women like a bloke, acts aggressively like a bloke, gets physical like a bloke...

... chance are, it's a bloke.

And the fact that this bloke sincerely believes he is not a bloke? That's what makes him dangerous. Male violence often occurs because a woman has injured a fragile identity (we used to call it fragile male ego before the transcult. This is no different).

You can't disagree or say no to an NPD - they escalate and get violent - their identity is too wrapped up in their ego-mania - as many women have found to their cost (most NPDs are male). He is dangerous despite his little tank top

I think there is a discussion about what is a woman at the end of the first clip. The women to the left of the TIM says, ‘What about a woman who has had a hysterectomy’. It is nonsensical, whataboutery and spectacularly misses the point.

He doesn’t like the signs because they are saying he is a man and he doesn’t like it. Exactly the type of man I don’t want in women’s spaces.

Stupid thing is - if the [actual, proper] women actually went away it would be one bloke in a dress waving a placard.

Utter odious contemptuous wanker.

For context: the event shown was in Melbourne so a twitter search of 'IWD2018 Melbourne' will provide some insight. There seems to have been a planned protest against people described as 'SWERFs & TERFs' by 'trans women, sex workers & allies'.

Can someone explain the whole SWERF thing to me? I cannot for the life of me understand what the alliance between sex workers and TIFs is about. I don't want to keep sex workers out of my space

I was interested to see it was very young women who were holding the signs. it is this demographic that usually uphold the handmaiden position and us oldies who seem to be labelled as anti-trans. (apologies to anyone who is of the younger generation).

I hope that the message about this is getting out to younger women - because from what I can see they seem to largely believe the whole trans = woman thing