Single Issue Political Party- The Protection of Female Only Spaces

[SemaMjinga]

Is there any interest in being part of this? and what do you think the priorities/focus should be?

Extention of legal exemptions, some of them not optional

This is absolutely what we need to push for. For the expectation that female spaces will be exempt, not the other way round. I do support repealing the GRA but I don't think it will happen.

What about branding it using the word "female"? Most people don't seriously challenge that TIMs are the opposite sex to "cis" women.

My feeling is it should very much be arranged the principle of

100 years of the vote and no one to vote for

I think it should most defo be a women's party, not a feminist party, this is for your granny, your next door neighbour, your midwife etc

And its organising idea should be women are female

from that all other injustices can be tackled, you can't do anything about sexism (and all the ways it impacts women and kids) if you can't see sex, or measure sex based injustice

That it is offensive and dergrading to women to be told we don't exist, and that we cannot organise in our own right.

Coalition of indy candidates is interesting. As let's be honest, unless we have a candidate in every seat, most of us can't vote for it anyway.

So perhaps it's more about making a very bloody big POINT very very loudly, and waking up great and the good that we aren't happy, and they are losing millions of votes. I think it's about being strategic.

And emboldening other MPs and candidates to be braver in opposing this, and then we could look at tactical voting.

Much as I hate to invoke the name of the fascist little shit, look what Nigel Farage and UKIP achieved with one seat and one issue.

Surely it's about getting a grip on the discourse, TAs have been very clever and sneaky getting control of the terms of this debate and there is absolutely no reason why they should imho. So surely its' about public opinion and political pressure as per UKIP did to the Tories to get what they wanted. (not suggesting we are anything akin to UKIP btw, I just mean if that bunch of morons can swing a nation, so can we).

Also, I think it has to very much be cross party, that ANY woman no matter her politics is welcome, as long as she is in agreement that women are female, and we are a distinct biological and political class.

Frankly, if the Tories unequivocally and emphatically dropped this, and promised me that my rights are protected, I'd hold my nose and vote for them for the first time ever, as I think this is the single biggest role back of women's rights in 200 years. And nothing is more important than your rights.

*roll back

PS despite my personal opinions on UKIP, when I say cross party, I mean it, if female UKIP voters agree women are female, self ID is bonkers, and women's rights are important, they are my sister in this fight, and I will stand with them and any other woman who feels the same. Hands across the Aisle style as per the USA.

This could be a collaborative single issue party. The issue is women!
Issues I see:
Caring and free labour
Children
NHS and health
Sex based protections
DV
And so on.

Non partisan.

Most pressing goal to ensure that sex based exemptions are upheld and GRA unaltered... until we can roll back the 2004 act!!

I agree with GirlScout. I too would be compelled to vote Tory if push came to shove.

UKIP grasped the mood of the country and pushed forward with their agenda very effectively.

Frankly, if the Tories unequivocally and emphatically dropped this, and promised me that my rights are protected, I'd hold my nose and vote for them for the first time ever, as I think this is the single biggest role back of women's rights in 200 years. And nothing is more important than your rights.

I agree. I also would never have dreamed of voting Tory. But if they publicly drop self ID and affirm the idea that female rights need to be protected and women are female and trans identified males are different I will vote for them. And I've told my Tory voting Mum this.

Good stats here from RedToothbrush

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3188440-tra-arrested-outside-department-for-health

The Mumsnet Political Union, a coalition of the left, right and centre, welcoming all females* regardless of age, colour, religion etc.
(*and males who support our aims).

I have booked in to see my MP to tell him that Tories should drop self ID as they'd scoop up labour voters and where are the bloody libdems?

Anyhoo

Haha cockerspaniel, i dont think mumsnet will want to be associated with us!!

I have booked in to see my MP to tell him that Tories should drop self ID as they'd scoop up labour voters and where are the bloody libdems?

It's a shame, as I live in a strong Labour area but next door is a marginal Tory seat. My mum lives in said Tory constituency. Need to work on her to set up a meeting!

Italics fail

I think the crux of the issue is 'gender identity' overriding/extinguishing the category of 'sex' in law and policy.

All of the other issues - single-sex spaces, sex segregation in prison, sports, data collection, etc. - flow from that.

So the central mission of the party should be to campaign to retain biological sex as a meaningful legal category, and to argue that sex, not 'gender identity' should be the determinant of who gets to use spaces, services, programs, etc, that are segregated by sex, because the very logic of their existence is predicated on the material reality of sexed bodies, not people's subjective internal states.

So you need to focus on that - to draw the public's attention to the fact that politicians and policy makers are replacing the objective category of sex with the entirely subjective feeling of 'gender identity', and that this makes no sense from a legal or policy standpoint. They need to be forced to answer WHY they are doing this (who benefits, and who loses?) and to fully grapple with the wide-ranging consequences of this radical change, including the extensive safeguarding issues it will give rise to, instead of being allowed to slip it in under the guise of 'inclusivity'.

A name like SexNotGender would efficiently convey the central mission of the party, as well as allowing representatives to push for a broader examination of the logic of gender identity ideology itself,* such as the way it conflates sex (male/female) with gender/sex roles (masculinity/femininity), and the fact that the paediatric transition industry is carrying out ever more extreme medical interventions in the bodies of children on the basis of the entirely unscientific belief that they have the 'soul' of the opposite sex trapped inside their bodies.

*Imagine: every time a rep is asked to explain the name, they'd get to do a mini-spiel on how 'gender' is sexist bollocks, while sex is a material reality.

I suggest collating the replies from MPs that oppose and support Self-ID.

Love SexNotGender - it would need some thick skinned and brave representatives though!

I am brave and a Rhino!!

I'm in.
Fighting stereotypes.
Fighting discrimination
Domestic violence.
Objectification of women
Misogyny.

I was thinking about this the other day. Wasn't one of the winning parties in the Italian elections an internet based party? How did they do it?

I'd be super on board with this. I agree the focus should be narrow.

Just repeating what other posters have said, but for God's sake keep the focus narrow and the tent wide. Don't do an Occupy Wall Street/Women's March/Whatever and turn it into a laundry list of hard-left concerns.

Also agree.

This is a great idea.

Im in, just as long as it isn't a 'left/right wing party. I think now is the time for women from all sides to band together.