Munroe Berdorf has resigned citing transphobia and right wing attacks

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A Model Has Resigned As A Labour LGBT Adviser And Blamed Conservative Newspaper Attacks
"I refuse to be painted as a villain or used as a pawn in the press' efforts, especially those at The Daily Mail, to discredit the Labour Party and push their transphobic rightist agendas," Munroe Bergdorf said on Tuesday morning.

LM is never going to be the replacement. The tweets from Bergdorf were from years ago.

It was a balanced news report, short and sweet but it did end with the Times' view of it in ascendancy.

They do Champion, very true.

But a lot of TRAs seem to think that you can only be female if you look like a cast member of TOWIE.

hairy vulvas, legs and arm pits are certainly not de rigueur when it comes to porn.

Obviously Bergdorf thinks otherwise and would wish to instruct women on how to defoliate.

Shon Faye on GRA. Sorry, but this has made me laugh! Why would anyone take what this person says seriously?

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the 'lecture'

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re bergdorf echo chamber much?

Have any TRAs/ Hand maidens thought about the messaging around 'facial feminisation surgery' and how it might be absorbed by young girls or even women for that matter? Is my jawline 'womanly' enough? Am I coquettish or sexy enough to be classified as a woman under these new ill-thought out rules?

TRAs have a misogynistic agenda. I imagine that making young girls feel insecure would be part of the fun.

Do you remember the takedown of Gok Wan by (I think) Julie Burchill - along the lines of "How dare you get women to strip naked and then humiliate them by telling them all their flaws?" These instructions on how to be a real woman (as dictated by the men) seem to me to come from the same place, and to have at their root an intention to belittle and undermine women.

Attention seeking diva to the last...

Where's the fucking due diligence with these people? I just despair. It's like my dd and her friends are running the LP. She's 8.

There isn't any and thats what's really alarming. If they can't do due diligence over people in the public eye, they aren't up to the job of scrutiny over important issues, policies and laws.

Have any TRAs/ Hand maidens thought about the messaging around 'facial feminisation surgery' and how it might be absorbed by young girls or even women for that matter? Is my jawline 'womanly' enough? Am I coquettish or sexy enough to be classified as a woman under these new ill-thought out rules?

The commercialisation of being a 'better' woman.

We have increasing anxiety and depression because we are not allowed to be content with who and what we are. We must be told we are failing in order to make profit.

Ironic given its socialist left of Labour who support it mist heavily.

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I've been thinking that if Labour are making such a shambles of this issue are they really fit for government?

Not that the Tories are any better mind you. Just that Labour need more people to have confidence in order to get elected.

I must say, personal interests aside, I'm a bit nervous of a social democrat party that obviously doesn't understand class

TallulahWaitingInTheRain Or human rights.

The Government is the Cabinet, those elected to take power because they have the majority in Parliament because of a coalition - of sorts.

Parliament is the political parties, of which there is a minority government propped up by a party that is very right wing - DUP.

Who started this? Why it was the current Government. Parliamentarians are simply dealing with the bombshell. It's a canny tactic to deflect from the shambles that is Brexit - which I still believe will not happen.

Or the law

Katharina - great point about Gok Wan. When he was popular I always found his programme disturbing. It was just upsetting that he'd reduce women to tears re: their 'wobbly bits' etc. So sad.

I remember him on some yoghurt advert, telling us 'ladies' how to avoid feeling bloated. Thanks Gok, I always needed a man to patronise me into understanding how my body works.

I'm still so angry about the lecturing that Munroe did about women not being allowed to talk about their own bodies on the day of the #TimesUp demonstrations, as that would be "reductive" and "exclusionary".

It shows such an utter and complete ignorance of women's history, that it's only very recently that women have been able to talk about their bodies at all.

And it shows such an utter and complete ignorance of what liberation politics is - both for women and for lesbians, bisexuals and gay men - that we are told by Munroe to speak less rather than shout from the rooftops.

Good riddance.

Popularism is the abject rejection of reality. It relies on lies to make people feel like they have no power to challenge decisions and policy in order to keep someone in power / gain power.

That doesn't stop the underlying realities that it tries to sweep under the carpet.

The problem with current politics is that the Tories need it for Brexit and Labour need it to get into government.

Neither is interested in actually dealing with problems properly.

Everyone else is also trying to cope the tactics because they've seen them to be popular.

The irony is, that the majority of people don't want any of that shit. They simply want life to be better and keep just voting against the people who are making the greatest hash of it.

No one with any quality gets a look in with this type of politics because they are not wedded to the ideology enough, because they value the practical of doing shit more. They get squeezed out at low level local politics level for not sucking up enough.

Kristina Harrison would make a marvellous replacement.

There's always a "I'm not that person anymore" thing about the trans rights people.

Like you can just change your name and your appearance and all the hateful things you did in your past can just be shaken off. Or excused because you claim that you weren't able to be your own authentic self then.

It is like a responsibility-free zone. I can totally see why it is attractive to sex offenders; nobody wants to self-identify as a sex offender. The trans rights movement offers a new world where you can shed your dodgy past while presenting yourself as brave and inspiring.

The problem with Labour is that it will not get into power with Momentum and Corbyn in the driving seat. The electorate they woo and need are centre and they will not vote - add in the women's vote which is traditionally left of centre and you have a storm brewing.

The problem with the Conservatives is that it will not have an overall majority because of Brexit. Do not underestimate the wrath of many Remain Conservatives on this. The electorate they woo simply will not vote.

Oh that’s a shame. Cough.

It’s amazing you can be thick as two short planks and be a racist to boot and still manage to have a global cosmetics company and a main UK party falling over themselves for you to represent them

"I'm not that person anymore"

But I am a racist because history?

I’m no fan of MB. Like, really not a fan.

However, there’s something that makes me feel a bit uneasy about the way these old tweets are being used.

It’s partly because social media was pretty new back then so what might otherwise have been off-colour remarks to friends (not unusual) that would normally sink without trace are being dredged up and used without context (and I’m not on Twitter so I don’t understand how it works with old content).

I agree the tweets are pretty awful, but some read a bit like the sort of thing that people within identity groups say to one another, that you’d never say in a million years if you weren’t in that group, or in another context.

I don’t know. I’m glad MB isn’t in the role, but it feels like dirty tactics obscuring what ought to be better reasons.

hipster I think what Munroe has said in the last two months on social media is quite enough for disqualify them from the post. I don't think we need to go any further back at all.

(Wait another two months and there will be even more woman-hating, I'm-a-victim bollocks from Munroe. This is not a fountain that is likely to dry up.)

Exactly.

I suppose I’m concerned because there’s a generation of young people, probably mostly decent, who could be tripped up as proper grown-ups (I realise MB wasn’t exactly a kid at this point) by this sort of thing.

I’m not a fan of Madigan either but, again, plenty of material and principle in the here and now. I don’t feel comfortable about the way that old profile page gets brought up over and over.