Why do you enjoy being a woman?

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I am happy I was born female. I just am.

apparently feminism just means 'believing in equality for men and women'. But I've read plenty of nasty, intolerant and bigoted comments from feminists (on this site amongst others) and I wouldn't like to associate myself with those kind of people, even if they're in the minority (I know there are plenty of nice feminists around too)

And if feminism really just means 'equality for men and women', then why are feminists not more supportive of issues affecting men? For example, I find it really shocking that suicide is the biggest killer of men under the age of 45. But on here, it's largely ignored, or attributed to men being violent and selfish

Honestly, that poster does come out with some stuff that is standard "MRA". Doesn't mean she's a man.

velourvoyageur - well yes absolutely. DH and I are going through fertility treatment and both have our issues and I can say that there is a very marked difference in the way that we are spoken to and "handled" because the onus is very much on me as the woman. People and doctors are generally nice - it's not a complaint as such - just quite evident. And of course what looms over me is that time is running out, as it isn't for him and the fact that we both put it off but that was largely driven by the fact the consequences it would have had on me as the woman. So of course this is not "what it makes me happy to be a woman" but is very much part of "what makes me a woman".

Women can be misogynistic MRAs too.

#equalrights

Oh yes, not having to pretend to be interested in sport in order to bond with a peer group.

I always think how DULL men's conversation is.

And if feminism really just means 'equality for men and women',

It doesn't. To me anyway. It means women's liberation from patriarchy.

then why are feminists not more supportive of issues affecting men?
Because feminism is about women and we're allowed to centre women in our conversation and activity. I'm happy to support male groups working to address the horrendous male suicide rates, but don't tell women they've got to do that gruntwork too. We're busy trying to overthrow patriarchy, raise children and do the dishes. Don't tell us to lead on men's issues too, that's up to men to do and we can support them doing it. Just as it's up to us to lead on women's issues and men's role is to support us.

#WDIT
Women Do It Too

I like being a woman because there is a secrecy about our lives. We are a subversive underclass and there is some pleasure in that. I have formed deep and lasting (and sometimes fleeting and ephemeral) friendships based on the connectivity that exists between woman as a result of our oppression

I like the fact that I can grow a baby in my belly.

Those are the only bits that are good.

This is a question that makes no sense to me. Asking me about being a woman is like asking me about being me.

At times in my life I have been very unhappy about being me. That was when I was mentally ill with depression. Now I am mentally well, and I am no longer unhappy about being me. I have a range of feelings about the different aspects of my life and of being me, some negative, some neutral, some happy.

Whether these feelings relate any more to being a woman than to being tall or blonde or coeliac...I don't know. It really doesn't seem relevant.

I'm delighted, happy, proud to be a mother. Dh didn't give birth or breastfeed. Dfriends didn't even have any genetic input into their parenthood - they adopted. Yet dh and dfs are also delighted, happy, proud to be parents. So I don't think our feelings relate to our sexes.

Asking me about being a woman is like asking me about being me

Well yes and no - as I said earlier, my DH and I come from identical backgrounds, have similar jobs (to the extent we have worked together at some points) and have gone though various issues as partners and have both noticed the extra bit of challenge I face that he doesn't. So if the roles were reversed I'd be able to say "it makes me happy to be a woman that I didn't have those extra challenges to face due to my sex". For all the other stuff people are mention, I don't really see it - DH has wonderful male friendships and I have wonderful female friendships (as well as mixed sexed friendships obviously). The only thing I can see as sticking out from this thread is "I made a person" or "I grew people in my body".

Yes. Now THAT sounds like an MRA.

I loved pregnancy and being a mother to my child, knowing that I'm the centre of their world. I enjoy the sexual side of being a woman, being attractive and the multiple orgasms.

what's an MRA?

You are, nan. They come here to troll, just as you have done today.

Yes. Now THAT sounds like an MRA

So what - the question was "why do you enjoy being a woman"

There is no wrong answer to it.

Banned troll is banned again.

It's a bit sweet that some people don't think there are trolls here.

'Oooh, what's [something that any sentient human being could Google in five seconds] mean?'

Cant say there is much i like. I didn't like pregnancy and couldnt stand bfing so didnt do it with my second two. I have never had an orgasm let alone multiple. I think im doing this whole woman thing wrong.

Banned troll is banned again
What a surprise. And people are shocked when we don't welcome new posters with open arms

I'm confused was this whole thread fake?

The emotional, psychological, and physical feeling of labour and giving birth. I cannot see how anything men experience can even come close to that pure connection with the visceral side of life. My family is complete, but I would happily give birth again and again. My first child's birth was traumatic, but it changed me in ways that nothing else ever could. My second and third births were unattended home births and were the best experiences of my life.

The feeling that we can make positive change collectively as women is something that fills me with pride too. We are so underestimated but we have so much more potential in us. We are not the ones who tend to start wars, become serial killers, or carry out acts of terrorism, or mass shootings. (Not on anything like the same scale as men), and when we eventually smash the patriarchy and get women into more positions ofower, I think the world will be a far better place. Until now the world has been run on male energy and ego, women haven't had the chance to counteract that, but I believe we will.

@Choccywoccyhooha apparently this whole thing is from a troll,but hey ho,still why not mention Your views on being a woman :)

I don't know what the old troll said.

But I like that I can attempt to help children without being a peadophile.

I love pregnancy, birth and breastfeeding. I love the support that women give other women (mostly). I have had a huge amount of trauma in my life and all caused by men, butthe amount of caring, support, help and love received from women has been incredible and I've also had my share of being the supporter for other women and children. That is more powerful than any violence to me.

The Op is fine. It was natteringnan who returned from bandrage to be banned again.