Well there is a cross party campaign strategy right there. Pestering Amber Rudd to reopen the gathering of evidence to be more representative.
Exactly. It needs revisiting. With full representation from the people whom it will affect, this time.
I'm not political, although have become more so since being on mumsnet.
I realise, like many other women, that this shouldn't be about politics.
But I think that's been naive, certainly on my part.
Initially, it was being used politically, to court votes from the youth.
But it's fast becoming the kind of hot potato, that causes division, political infighting and forces people into partisan positions that they are conflicted about. It will be a tipping point for women's political affiliation.
And that ought to wake up any savvy politician, in terms of leverage.
What it shouldn't do is prevent women from coalescing to fight it, and not have them condemned for disagreeing with a political ideology.
We shouldn't just try to set politics aside, we should be actively encouraging it.
JJ seemed to be saying that if you want to fight this, you need to take what I have said and show it to your own political party. Because she seems to want to dispense with people who don't agree with her politics. But that won't work. As soon as one party caves, the rest will follow. Because the reason for the caving, will be self evident: half the population disagrees.
The bullet points in the opening post seem strong, incisive and comprehensive.
Especially the part about misogyny being a hate crime. Talking in black and white about equality laws, asking for exemptions, asking for impact assessments is brilliant, but does not address the incredible misogyny that seems to be woven like a thread of white hot fury through this issue.
And, in my opinion it's just about the most important point there is.
So in summary, JJ, accept that this will go nowhere without the support of all women, irrespective of their political affiliation.
Keep it as far away as possible from any political point scoring.
And understand, that only a fraction of people are aware of this. It's only right-wing press who are bringing the issue to the public's attention. Without them, we would still be nowhere.
I understand that your points are coming from a Scottish newspaper that publishes social and political discourse?
So your points, presumably, are aimed at what is currently happening in Scotland.
But we have Maria Millers transgender equality report as the only official publication. It hadn't occurred to me that if the government want to consult, then starting from scratch with that, is the most obvious solution.
As I said, politics are not my strong point, so I might have got that wrong.
I also agree with allowing this to play out right here, on mumsnet.
If a representative from labour wants to talk to women, they can start a thread. It's by far the best way.
It's transparent, it's inclusive.
They could go away, to digest links, and comments. Saying I'll be back tomorrow.
Part of the problem with this is that being given two hours with your notes, a desk, and an arbitrator often fails to convey everything.
Or, you know, they could just give up a few hours and read some of the threads that are here already. Everything you need to know is contained within them.