Feminists who are Lord Peter fans......

[BertrandRussell]

I just noticed this reference to domestic violence in Busman’s Honeymoon.
“"O-o-oh! I do hope he won't be violent."

"Violent?" said Harriet, half amused and half angry. "Oh, I shouldn't think so."

But alarm is infectious...and much-tried men have been known to vent their exasperation upon their[Pg 330] servants. The two women clung together, waiting for the explosion.

"Well," said the distant voice, "all I can say is, Bunter, don't let it happen again.... All right.... Good God, man, you needn't tell me that ...of course you didn't.... We'd better go and view the bodies."

The sounds died away, and the women breathed more freely. The dreadful menace of male violence lifted its shadow from the house”

Aren’t those last two sentences chilling?

I have the Ian Carmichael ones. Do feel free to hate me even more than you do anyway (for my iron discipline of my hair and my children )

Ian C skipped the French letter (oo-err missus) in Clouds of Witness.

That’s ok Helen, no need to envy you, I will just remember that you’ve been ‘remarkably flat on both aspects’ of your figure all your life, and probably say something rather acid about your spine....

I remember somewhere, was it here? About the dramatisation of Busman's Honeymoon ending with Peter and Harriet laughing at the end which jarred a great deal after the whole breakdown climax. Forewarned I can't possibly listen to these!

I find Jane McDowell very disappointing. You would hope there would be a flavour of Harriet in the choice of narrator's voice but no. She just sounds a bit bored. There are so many great people they could have chosen instead. Audiobooks are pretty big business these days instead.

Sorry meant the Carmichael dramatisation.

tobee, do you mean the TV version?

The Ian C BH is available both in dramatisation and as an unabridged audio. I believe I have both, BRB...

Ah, no, I must have had the dramatisation on an old Audible account. I don't remember laughter though.

The television series with Harriet Walter and Edward Petherbridge is available on YouTube...

*He guessed her to be about forty, though, as is frequently the case with country women, she had lost most of her front teeth and looked older."

It's slipped in so casually*

Probably accurate, though for the 1930s. No NHS dentistry. My grandmother had hers taken out in the 1930s and wore false ones because dentists were so expensive. And being exposed to the elements without modern SPFs would hammer the skin.

No. I meant the radio dramatisation.

I have the Petherbridge/Walters ones on dvd. Swoon! So them as a youngster and that had me hooked.

Saw them not so them ,l

Petherbridge and Walters almost crackle with chemistry. It was watching those two that got me reading the books years ago.

Aibu that Have His Carcase is my favourite?

I keep dreaming of going off on a HV walking holiday.

Ooh what a great thread.
Is it DLS who occasionally makes reference to the unfortunate ugly women who still want sex? Of course at the time the sex starved spinster was a stock character and references to 'glands' causing all sorts of mental health issues probably reflected contemporary medical thinking.
I find GN gets a bit too much at times. DLS does hero worship LPW and as PPs said her voice becomes a bit intrusive.

It is very long too.

I always feel sad that DLS didn't have a great private life.

YANBU!

That incident with Ms Twitterton. If I'm remembering rightly, her father was a violent alcoholic wasn't he?

If so, her fear is a normal reaction to bottles of alcohol belonging to a man being damaged I think and that degree of fear would be catching. Especially since Peter and Harriet haven't lived together before and she hasn't seen his reactions to something like this.

Also - BH is the novelisation of a play, and some of the characters can be more caricatures for this reason, IMO. Two women cowering in trepidation would be a dramatic moment.

Would like to get the playscript one day!

There are two TV movies of Busman's Honeymoon. 1947 and 1957. And the 1940 movie. Now I like Robert Montgomery. But he is a native New Yorker. Which doesn't sit right with me as Lord Peter. Haven't seen them but imagine they might be a bit creaky.

From IMDb

Ooh it's cut off Constance Cummings as Harriet. American born Brit.

Hmm, $20..
www.dramatists.com/cgi-bin/db/single.asp?key=1992