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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Can I join you? The BBC made me peak!

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Ohyesihavepeaked · 04/02/2018 09:31

Hi all.
I was on mumsnet years ago before the who data breach geoff thing. I left and vowed never to return. I never looked at the feminism pages but in the last 12 months I began to lurk. I can't remember what it was that brought me here.
Anyway - I am like a lot of people a very accepting person. I didn't ever question the trans narrative because I likened it to the homophobia of the past. But then I read, I thought and then I read some more and I realised that a debate very much needs to be had about the trans issues. I have been provided with so much information and considered reasoning from you lot - especially Datun - what a legend!
I have read all the links, watched the videos, followed twitter feeds and I have been close to peak trans for a while. I resisted rejoining mumsnet because I didn't see the point and was worried about security because of last time. I 100% can not speak publicly about this because of my job. But I can take it no more and I need to vent.

The BBC video someone else mentioned today is what has finally tipped me over the edge. I have just sent off my complaint to the BBC and I have re-registered to tell someone, anyone that OH YES. I HAVE PEAKED!.

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 04/02/2018 09:32

Welcome!

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 04/02/2018 09:35

Come on in. Have a brew Brew. There's a lot of it about at the moment

CapnHaddock · 04/02/2018 09:39

Which BBC video? And welcome :)

Datun · 04/02/2018 09:42

Hi @Ohyesihavepeaked

Welcome back!

Which video?

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 04/02/2018 09:45

I'm assuming the one with Linda bellos etc about what makes someone a woman

Ohyesihavepeaked · 04/02/2018 09:46

'Who or what defines you as a woman' on the BBC news page.

I warn you - it's not good for the blood pressure. The bit that flipped me was when they don't make it clear that the attack at hyde park was by a tra. It implied that both sides were violent.
So glad to be here. I have found my people.

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Ohyesihavepeaked · 04/02/2018 09:46

cross post with super

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CorbynTrouserPress · 04/02/2018 09:47

Hello Ohyesihavepeaked,

Welcome in.

Your path is very similar to mine. I remember only a year or so ago being incredulous and uncomfortable at the 'nasty' bigots on mumsnet. But I read the posts and I thought and now I am a small contagious, peaktransing virus- my family and all the friends I've spoken to have come on board (but can't speak out because of their employment).

'They also serve who only stand and wait'.

Grin
maresedotes · 04/02/2018 09:50

I've just watched the video too. It did imply violence on both sides.

The comment that made me angry was the transwoman boasting that she always used the women's toilets and no-one had challenged her. If she was truly empathetic to women she would feel sad about that. We don't challenge because we're afraid of the repercussions. I include myself in that and that annoys me.

maresedotes · 04/02/2018 09:55

The comment about the young too resonated with me. My 16 year old DD sees nothing wrong with their access to women's spaces and I am "transphobic". Ouch!

Datun · 04/02/2018 09:55

You know what ohyes? I don't think I'm going to watch it!

I've had to become quite selective in what I read/watch.

As you say, blood pressure.

I have peaked so many times, I don't need to keep doing it to myself.

The Rose McGowan debacle has been posted in AIBU and seems to be peaking people in droves.

Everyone is finally waking up that when we talk about transactivists, we are not talking about the quiet transwoman in accounts who's no threat to anyone.

But, more importantly, I think people are realising the size, strength and depth of the transactivist lobby. These are not a handful of outliers who just happen to be more vocal.

They are recruiting men everywhere, whether trans or not.

Every misogynist in the country is swelling their ranks.

But the tide is turning. Laying into Rose McGowan, of all people, is not going to go down well.

LangCleg · 04/02/2018 09:56

Welcome!

OvaHere · 04/02/2018 09:58

Welcome OP to the first of many peaks Brew

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:04

My bp struggles now.

But welcome back. And yes, super Datun!

I was with friends last night and found I was able to get tiny references in here and there but had to be careful. Most haven't got a clue and it wasn't the environment.

It's like the matrix; once you see it it's everywhere.

hipsterfun · 04/02/2018 11:08

small contagious, peaktransing virus

Username, anyone?

Welcome, OP Smile

Fairenuff · 04/02/2018 11:10

Pity that the article didn't do what it said in the title and define 'woman'.

CappuccinoCake · 04/02/2018 11:18

peeks out to ask silly question.

What does peak trans and having peaked mean? Is it when you realise that it's not all A Good Thing/threat to women spaces etc and come across tot he gender critical side?

HumphreyCobblers · 04/02/2018 11:22

Yes CappuccinoCake, exactly that. The moment at which the light dawns.

For me it was the IOC ruling about TIM participating in the Olympics as women competitors. A ruling made by a group that included nine men, one woman and one TIM iirc.

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:24

Welcome to the mountain CappuccinoCake.

Coffee cake for you cappuccino?

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:24

It's getting warmer up here now. Quite a camp.

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:25

Riley Dennis peak transed me, with the cotton ceiling.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 04/02/2018 11:26

Cappuccino cake?

You've got me thinking about that now, and Caffè Nero only 15 minutes down the road...

Welcome to the dark side!

CorbynTrouserPress · 04/02/2018 11:28

Cappuccino

was just thinking this morning, there's so many peaks round here it quite puts me in mind of Switzerland, or.....er....smutty fiction.

Smile
Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:29

Yes I just triggered coffee chocolate craving in myself...

I was going to say welcome to the dark side, but I reckon is the clear blue sunny side where we can see for miles.

Ekphrasis · 04/02/2018 11:31

Ah.

Toblerone.

The official peak trans chocolate.