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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Don't leave labour over AWS - stay and fight

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Chchchchangeabout · 23/01/2018 11:51

All those leaving the Labour Party over this - I totally understand why you feel you would want to do this. But surely staying and fighting this is the most impactful way forward? Setting up a group to campaign with facts, reason, case studies against this decision internally would surely have more impact? Staying also retains a voting voice over who gets to be representing the party, in female officer roles and beyond. Each person leaving loses us a voice in the debate.

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QuentinSummers · 24/01/2018 19:22

I voted independent last time and would do again.
I've said on a few threads that maybe what we need is a coalition of females to stand as independent MPs on feminist issues round the place. So many women are feeling disenfranchised.
It would be a protest vote but a protest vote with a point.
There was a whole thread a while back but no-one to take it forward.

user187656748 · 24/01/2018 19:28

I am not a member but will no longer vote for labour. Their position on this is appalling. As a pp said, it feels like a cult. Quite scary how many people are just going along with things just because they are scared to be the person who is brave enough to call them out on it.

littlebillie · 24/01/2018 19:45

I've been looking at the Woman's equality party and they make a lot of sense

QuentinSummers · 24/01/2018 20:14

Yes, except they are fully paid up "trans women ARE women, bigot!"

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 25/01/2018 09:19

The ONLY reason I am still a member is to see if I can get myself expelled for being on the bloody list. I had retained my membership to vote for local young women candidates for council; one has stood down after being subject to horrific racist abuse and the other has been excluded from the boy’s club that gives out jobs in my area. Fuck that. This isn’t the Party I joined at 18 and have fought for in every election since. It’s just not that Party any more.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 25/01/2018 10:46

I've left. I wanted to stay and change things but it was a pointless, Sisyphean struggle. It's not just AWS, it's the whole brocialist movement that have become so vocal and powerful. Anyhow, the hierarchy have no interest in changing anything any of this, but I'm hoping that if enough women also leave they might then be forced to take some notice.

I did write to tell them why I left, I would suggest other leavers do the same.

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