If I am outwardly a white woman, to others, but born in Africa and identify as a black woman?

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Then why shouldn't the state recognise this? I am a British citizen, btw.

If transgenderism is recognised, why not trans-racialism? I have always felt my ethnic identity is more in line with where I was born.

Genuine question. I am wondering why there are rules for some, but not for others who feel 'different inside' as well.

I'm sure there are a multitude of scenarios of self-identifying individuals that wish to be recognised. Where does the buck stop?

I think that if people can identify as the opposite sex, and be legally recognised as such you should absolutely be allowed to be legally recognised as black. You should also be able to identify as any age or religion you like. Fancy identifying as pregnant or disabled, why not? It would be bigoted to question your deeply held identity.

Because it's 'little women.' Misogyny still rules and perpetuates.

By coincidence, this was answered on twitter yesterday by a literal fuckwit:

twitter.com/jimahsjournals/status/954366232337305603

I have to deal with Ethnicity in an Education context - it's required to be collected for Census reasons. If one of our parents is Black Caribbean but answers Chinese or White or Pakistani as their Ethnic origin I wont be questioning that. It is absolutely their prerogative to answer how they wish including their legal right to answer "prefer not to state".

Could you explain a bit more of the context where the state wont recognise this.

who wish to, not that.

I try to keep away from Twitter. Just recently I was called a transphobe for saying I think the GRA warrants further scrutiny (and its implications further scrutiny, too).

You should be able to. As a PP said you should be able to identify as anything you want - a race, gender, whatever.
If someone identifies as disabled they should get disability benefits. If someone identifies as pregnant they should be allowed time off for appointments and maternity leave as well as being given scans etc. If someone identifies as a manager they should be assigned staff to manage. If someone identifies as a 4 year old they should be allowed in nursery and if someone identifies as an 82 year old they should be allowed to live in an old peoples home. Why not? I can't see any difference between choosing a gender and choosing an age or a race etc.
Every group of people you can think off will have their own struggles and history and people prejudiced against them and anyone should be able to pretend they understand and have lived through those issues and just 'become' whatever they want on a daily basis depending on how they feel when they wake up.

Sorry - I’m unclear as to whether you’re ethnically black/mixed-race, or technically Caucasian?

Well, actually, if you were born in an African country, most residents of that continent would consider you African ( I have a bunch of cousins born in Tanzania - all white as white, but African in Africa).

greenlanes , for reasons of national security should persons not tick the box of their outward appearance?

A transwoman who outwardly does not pass for a man - or have female organs/biology - should they be allowed to tick 'female'? Why not 'transwoman'? And vice versa.

Outwardly I do not pass as a black African woman, however, for legal reasons I feel obliged to tick the box for 'white British' or 'white other'. Btw, there is no box for white African. Though, for me, I feel I am black African, not white.

Is this about Rachel Dolezal?

Outwardly I am white. 'White European' is the ethnicity I was assigned at birth. However, I self-identify as black African, as that is who I feel I am inside.

banana , no this about me and my own self-identity.

If you are white, and born in Europe, how can you identify as black African? I’m not trying to be goady; I genuinely don’t get it. Because surely your experience of life is actually very different to someone who is black African?

Maybe I should have posted elsewhere. I do realise I will never be able to self-identify for legal reasons. Transgender people should also have to come to terms with this reasoning. Otherwise, where does the buck stop?

The state could only be expected to recognise you as black if you underwent permanent surgery to look black ie plastic surgery, skin colouring etc. It doesn’t have to be the whole hog, just enough do you actually look black.

See it’s just how being trans works.

Pottering my identity document says 'white', commonly known as 'white European' where I was born and raised. I shared similar cultural experiences to my black peers. I feel black, not white.

Pottering my identity document says I am 'white', commonly known as 'white European' where I was born and raised. I share similar cultural experiences to my black peers. I feel black, not white.

If you're at all genuinely interested in this, and aren't already familiar with the Rachel Dolezal 'story' , it's well worth a read.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me

The more recent articles have tended to be from a more sympathetic viewpoint as they're there to sell her book afaict.

I might be mixing up something like race and nationality here but surely millions of people claim to be something else.

Obviously being white and claiming black is a fairly extreme example.

I’m thinking of Irish or Italian in America.

Pottering my identity document says 'white', commonly known as 'white European' where I was born and raised. I shared similar cultural experiences to my black peers. I feel black, not white.

Outwardly I am white. 'White European' is the ethnicity I was assigned at birth. However, I self-identify as black African, as that is who I feel I am inside.

Those fascist midwives again

Outwardly I am white. 'White European' is the ethnicity I was assigned at birth. However, I self-identify as black African, as that is who I feel I am inside.

Those fascist midwives again

something's not working properly with my posts but there was another good interview at
www.thestranger.com/features/2017/04/19/25082450/the-heart-of-whiteness-ijeoma-oluo-interviews-rachel-dolezal-the-white-woman-who-identifies-as-black