Are terms like Male Tears unhelpful?

[Micaela64]

Think about it, we try to explain to men that the patriarchy keeps them from expressing emotions and forces them to be "macho" and emotionless, then any time a man complains about what they perceive as injustices or hardships they’re shamed with comments like "LOL, male tears’" or "fragile masculinity!" instead of respectful counter arguments or attempt at understanding. Can men have emotions or not? It's the adult equivalent of telling male children "boys don't cry!"

How are we meant to argue that feminism can benefit them too and stop them facing the pressure of always living up to stereotypical roles if we then mock them for expressing emotions and feelings? It feels hypocritical.

I tire of seeing the level of debate descend into this sort of name-calling under every feminism article or video. When gay people were fighting for their rights they understood they had to get straight people on side to make real change. Maybe we need to learn from them a little?

Glad you apologise for wasting our time.

The best way for you to show your contrition is to stop posting when you know you're wrong, and possibly even apologise for being a disingenuous arse.

I know, pipe dreams

I think Cherry’s definition is spot on, it doesn’t mean ‘laughing at men who are showing emotion’. I’ve never used it but I think it probably does have a place - such as on threads about women-only breastfeeding classes when a man pops up to talk about how unfair that is to him.

I realise the moment has passed, but I'd also like to suggest that comparing feminists puncturing male temper tantrums with white people attempting to silence blm campaigners on the grounds that they're too 'angry' betrays a total failure to understand privilege, oppression or indeed history.

xeno you are awesome. I love "wazzocksplained". Gender neutral, but will probably mainly apply to one gender. Awesome.
Didn't you also come up with trombone? One of my favourites!

"man flu" is another

@MephistophelesApprentice

With regard to men's issues, only men can solve them.
But that would mean men would have to actually do something about them..
but men really aren't interested in doing that..

It is much easier for men to whine
"OMG, more men die in accidents at work than women?"
"OMG millions of men have been killed in war!"

yEAH And who killed them?
AW shut up you feminist, that's irrelevant!
As if!

These are things men constantly complain about but to solve them it would require men to do something about them, wouldn't it?

Exactly AsMen. Men's problems as a class are 99% of the time as a result of other men, not women. Yet woman are expected to centre men in feminism

@Cherry
Well if men aren't at the centre of everything, they feel they are being ignored.. which is why so many of them go on to being mass shooters..

This is men's world, men 's oyster and women have never been seen as as part of it, but interlopers, invading men's territory .. who are fair game for men to stalk anytime they think to venture into it.. everywhere is men's territory and feminism is something that denies men that..

We see why so many men despise feminism, it doesn't promote men's male propaganda of men being brave heroic self sacrificing martyrs but challenges those ideas instead..