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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Actually I think this deserves its own thread

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WTAFisthisshit · 15/12/2017 14:14

Labour Woman's officer thinks that trans woman are a larger percentage of the population than woman who have experienced sexual assault or rape.

I'm not a LP member and I'm not a constituent. Who do I complain to about this?

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Thehairthebod · 15/12/2017 17:09

If Lily's Mum was truly disgusted with them and completely unaccepting, surely they would have just chucked Lily out on their ear?

I'm imagining a conversation like this:

'Liam, I'm putting a wash on, do you want me to put the pink hoodie and dungaree dress in too'?

'Mum, stop DEADNAMING me! Why can't you just accept me. But yeah, the hoodie and dress are upstairs in my dirty washing, ta'.

WTAFisthisshit · 15/12/2017 17:14

Datun I really think you may be judging others by your own standards and crediting Lily with a level of intelligence they just don't have! I don't think any thought went into that tweet AT ALL.

thehairthebod actually LOL!

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KatherinaMinola · 15/12/2017 17:15

It’s probably basing it on the 85,000 women a year who are raped, and the 650,000 trans-people there are.

Not taking into account those who don’t report rape. Not taking into account those who are actually killed. Not taking into account sexual harassment which is endemic. Not taking into account that half those trans people are women anyway.

And not taking into account the fact that a woman might have been raped (or sexually assaulted short of rape) two years ago, or ten years ago, or forty years ago. If you're looking at sexual assault, the figure is practically all women (ie somewhere in the region of 51% of the population). I don't know what the figure is on how many women were raped and reported the rape.

busyboysmum · 15/12/2017 17:17

It’s probably basing it on the 85,000 women a year who are raped, and the 650,000 trans-people there are.

Yes but that doesn't take into account that it's probably a different 85,000 women each year. So actually there must be a lot of woman like myself who was sexually assaulted in 1989 and still suffers because of it. We are still alive. Just because we weren't assaulted this year doesn't mean we're over it.

KatherinaMinola · 15/12/2017 17:17

I mean the total figure of women who have been raped - not the annual figure. I suppose that would be pretty hard to work out - might have to be an estimate based on proportion of women who say they have been raped.

busyboysmum · 15/12/2017 17:17

X Posted Katherina 😁

KatherinaMinola · 15/12/2017 17:19

Yes, me too!

MentholBreeze · 15/12/2017 17:22

Deadnaming is a horrible term. I mean, I get called Mrs DPName pretty often, I don't worry too much, although I'll generally correct people, especially if it's in an official capacity - I don't have a go at them for it (again, unless someone is forcefully malicious/incompetent around it and it causes me trouble).

Where are all the people telling Lilly he's being hysterical, that it's not a big deal, that it's traditional that parents call their children by the name they chose for him and he should take it as a complement, and fight bigger battles?

GuardianLions · 15/12/2017 17:35

I hate 'deadname' too. It is very cult-ish and manipulative.
Such an insult to the whole period of parental sacrifice that prioritised your well-being in order that you might live and live well - for you to then rubbish all those years of care, as a kind of living death insisting that everyone including those parents must forget about those years and experiences entirely, including their own sweat, blood and tears, that gave you that life.

Ungrateful little toerag - slating his own parents on twitter.

Lancelottie · 15/12/2017 17:40

I can't be bothered with Twitter, but I might need to join up just to post 'You ungrateful little toerag' after pretty much everything Lily ever says.

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 15/12/2017 17:42

Christ if he wasn’t in the role he was in those tweets would just be the eyelid curling cringeworthy verbal diarrhoea of an egotistical teenager who has yet to have any sort of dalliance with the real world. But he is the women’s Officer for the Labour party!! What the hell are they thinking. Seriously. Are there no adults in the party thinking “ok, bedtime for the children”?

Lancelottie · 15/12/2017 17:54

Not the women's officer, to be fair. Just an officer, a voluntary role for a constituency party; mostly leafleting people, if someone's description on another thread was right.

WTAFisthisshit · 15/12/2017 17:56

I don't know how the fuck he has time for leafleting what with the three jobs, uni course and typing every moronic navel gazing thought he ever has into twitter!

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DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 15/12/2017 17:56

Ahhh!! Thank you lancelottie, that makes it less bad. Slightly. It is still a totally ridiculous situation.

Thehairthebod · 15/12/2017 18:05

Hang on, so Lily Madigan is universally, unequivocally, unquestionably a 'woman'. Same as any other woman, goes for the role of 'Women's officer' rather than 'trans officer' because she is a woman.

Except when she might get to win an award for being a 'hero'. Then she is trans.

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Thehairthebod · 15/12/2017 18:08

Not the women's officer, to be fair. Just an officer, a voluntary role for a constituency party; mostly leafleting people, if someone's description on another thread was right.

Actually Lily is now considering running for Women's officer on a national scale. Not because she actually cares about women's issues though, you understand. No, just to piss off the 'trolls'.

Lolz.

Sorry I will stop screenshotting her tweets now, they are just so easy to pull apart that's all!

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InternetHoopJumper · 15/12/2017 18:11

Men expect to have their chosen names respected. Women who choose to keep their own names upon marriage can drop dead, it would seem.

GuardianLions · 15/12/2017 18:17

I like the rather feeble (and supporters too!) - in brackets as an after thought Grin

You couldn't make your supporters look any less significant or valued if you tried.

WTAFisthisshit · 15/12/2017 18:18

I was doing PR for the conservatives I would so be saving all this shite for the next election campaign Sad

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DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 15/12/2017 18:21

It’s is quite hilarious, isn’t it guardian? Grin gives a very good indicator of his motivation.

GuardianLions · 15/12/2017 18:32

Yes - he is clearly a highly Machiavellian 'user' of people - just not very skilled at it, and in this world of social media, unfortunately for him, he didn't find his duplicitous legs privately first.

I wonder if any of his '(supporters)' who donated money to his rent and groceries fund felt a bit put out by that? Or are they such self-negating sycophants they would feel grateful if he wiped his boots on them while he was at it too?

MissUnderwood · 15/12/2017 18:39

I agree with a PP, Labour have to be made aware they are losing votes over this. It's as if they're blind walking into this, just to look cool and liberal and win a few fringe votes/naive youths.

They've lost my vote. This is where I draw the line.

GuardianLions · 15/12/2017 18:43

I really hope Labour take note. I've voted Labour all my life Sad

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 15/12/2017 18:45

Labour aren’t an option for me (NI) but if I was in England they would be my choice. this is the first time I’ve ever thought I couldn’t vote for them.

pisacake · 15/12/2017 19:05

650,000 transpeople?

No way is it that many.