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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cambridge GenCrit Meeting - this is what happens when women try to speak

39 replies

LangCleg · 29/11/2017 09:34

Judith Green outlines the difficulties in putting on this meeting in the face of extreme transactivism. Some of the details are really quite disgraceful, from fake ticket purchases to ringing the venue.

www.socfem.net/2017/11/a-womans-place-is-on-the-platform

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Datun · 29/11/2017 09:50

This isn’t just about a conflict of rights. This is utter fury that women are not obeying.

It’s beyond contemptible.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 29/11/2017 09:51

These people really do want women's rights to move backwards. And many of them will be women.

LangCleg · 29/11/2017 09:53

I am quite sure the average person in the street has no idea at all that this sort of extreme stuff is going on.

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Elendon · 29/11/2017 10:19

To spend time booking those tickets and ringing the venue indicates a sick pathological mindset. Also a dangerous one too.

Datun · 29/11/2017 10:22

I would dearly love to know exactly what it is they say to the venue, once they find out who it is, to put pressure on them to cancel.

“Do you know you are hosting a transphobic conference?” Doesn’t sound to me weighty enough leverage, judging by their massively over the top tactics elsewhere.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 29/11/2017 10:25

Thank you for posting this. It is sobering to contemplate how utterly deranged these people are. In a sense you feel sorry for them. Whose life is so empty they feel the need to do this?

LangCleg · 29/11/2017 10:37

I can only hope that this level of coordinated silencing - and potentially violent - behaviour will become so extreme that your average person will become aware of it. Because it won't be popular if the understanding of what is happening goes mainstream.

It's well worth signing up for the SocFem newsletter because they'll email you with each new post.

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KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 29/11/2017 10:42

Cambridge used to be a university for clever people. What the hell happened guys?
It actually upsets me quite a lot. If this is the quality of people now attending the institution, the institution is surely fucked. Almost a thousand years of glorious intellectual heritage - now this.

pisacake · 29/11/2017 10:48

All universities have been taken over by dribbling babies. I'm not sure if there are any exceptions.

Even science institutions, like Imperial, have Safe Space policies.

It's utter nonsense from start to finish.

Elendon · 29/11/2017 10:54

There is a thread regarding this link

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/11/27/oxford-college-votes-calls-gender-neutral-toilets-amid-fears/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_tmg

Here's the thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3098710-Good-news-for-a-change-Oxford-college-rejects-gender-neutral-facilities

Several students said they were concerned about the vote being made public, amid fears that those who voted against it would be seen as “transphobic” and their peers would “judge them”.

So I do fear that students at colleges and universities do fear being called out for transphobia which seems to be tagged alongside racism and holocaust denial now. (but not sexism, strangely).

norahnamechange · 29/11/2017 11:46

Even though I know it happens, I'm still shocked at this! Publicise and share!!!

MrGHardy · 29/11/2017 11:55

And just this morning I read a tweet accusing "anti-trans" to be a campaign trying to silence trans activists. When in reality it's the other way round.

But then again, has anyone noticed how this is a trend in politics/discourse? Trump is the star example of it - accuse your opponents of the things you do (before they can accuse you of it).

Mxyzptlk · 29/11/2017 12:03

I hope it is only a small minority of the population which has these views but they are very cunning at pushing their agenda without making it obvious to everyone (the average person) what they are doing.

Blanchefleur · 29/11/2017 12:27

I would dearly love to know exactly what it is they say to the venue, once they find out who it is, to put pressure on them to cancel.

I imagine it must seem like a piss-take at first:

"Hello, you are hosting a meeting about the silencing of women's voices? Well, we think they shouldn't be allowed to talk." Ermmmm...

LangCleg · 29/11/2017 13:04

I think they threaten the venue itself - do you know you are hosting bigots? What will that say about you? We'll be sure to tell everyone we know that you're not a safe space? Do you realise that no activists will ever rent your space again?

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/11/2017 13:36

I worry that the same will happen at the Glasgow talk I am going to Sad

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 29/11/2017 15:49

If I was the owner of a venue I think I’d be rather pleased if these people told me they’d never use it. They are mad as a box of frogs.

Ttbb · 29/11/2017 15:53

To be fair most of the better universities have become a hot bed of pc doublethink and censorship. This really shouldn't be surprising.

Elendon · 29/11/2017 16:21

Well one would have thought it was those universities beyond Oxbridge and the Russell Group that wanted to highlight their right on credentials. Not those universities that are at the forefront of science and new technological advances.

As for Universities connected to hospitals for the training of doctors who go in for the trans women are women anti logic and biology, I despair.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 29/11/2017 17:52

I did feel a stab of pain when I saw it was Peterhouse that had refused to allow Linda Bellos to speak. Not my college but I will forever associate it with one particularly brilliant person I knew there. And this is where it is now. I’m sad to see great institutions of thought and learning caught up in this infantile unscientific rubbish. It demeans them. Apologies if that sounds pompous but we have so few bastions if true excellence left.

Datun · 29/11/2017 18:07

This is the problem. They are getting them young.

Drag queens going into kindergartens to point out to toddlers what hate speech is.

Propaganda being disseminated in primary and secondary schools.

Universities shutting down debate and never listening to an opposing view point.

And because the cohort is so small, most people will never actually come into contact with it.

So these kids will sit there, in splendid isolation, virtue signalling and never realising what a fuck up they’ve made.

Until they do. Until a man identifying as woman takes their job. Or their maternity leave gets cancelled because it’s not just women who get pregnant and sex discrimination doesn’t exist.

Or no one is listening to them speaking from a woman’s point of view, because there is another woman speaking for them who has a man’s point of view.

By which time, it will be far, far too late.

cromeyellow0 · 29/11/2017 18:16

It takes only a few committed right-on students to alter the protocols governing speeche.g. transphobia is hate speech. Most people are too busy researching, teaching, and administering to notice. Even in my university, among the most politically aware people in Britain, nobody is aware of this issueapart from lesbians, but they are obviously a tiny minority.

Moreover, TRAs have infiltrated LBGTQ and feminist student groups. So there is no way in which lesbians for example can mobilize to present an alternative view.

However the defeat (albeit narrow) of gender neutral unisex toilets in an Oxford college was a promising sign.

MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 29/11/2017 19:25

Such a lack of critical thought from these people. How do they deal with any kind of conflict in life whatsoever. Sheesh imagine living in halls with these people or working with them.

VivaLeBeaver · 29/11/2017 19:51

I don't think this was a students issue....the meeting was Cambridge town not a Cambridge university organised meeting.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 29/11/2017 20:03

I have the utmost respect for the organisers and venue. I attended the meeting in my own and was terrified during my journey to the venue (and leaving it) - although that actually made me more determined to go. Really grateful the organisers didn’t give in and were one step ahead of the TRAs attempts to sabotage the event.