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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans-identified male claims to also be transracial Filipino

77 replies

pisacake · 13/11/2017 21:15

Apparently he has come out to his family as a woman, but he has yet to broach the fact that he is also Filipino.

He demonstrates his Filipinoness by driving a tuk-tuk (pink, natch) around Florida, eating Filipino food and listening to Filipino music.

For some reason the media is describing him as a man, even though he has long pink hair and is therefore clearly a woman. Seems misgendering is ok if you also appropriate someone else's culture.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078211/Transracial-Florida-man-born-white-claims-Filipino.html

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Bucketsandspoons · 14/11/2017 16:57

*Anti science. Never type with a puppy climbing on you.

Fekko · 14/11/2017 17:01

Ok we get it. He is the specialist of all the skecual people.

Next!

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 14/11/2017 17:03

Fuck me Ja Du, those purple trousers are LITERAL violence to anyone who self-identifies as having taste.

pisacake · 14/11/2017 17:10

"'Trans age' will follow if the trans gender self identifying science and basic common sense shit is indulged. Wait for the pigtailed, stubbled, six foot three guy in frilly frocks who wants to enact his sexual age play relationship at Brownies and join the after school club"

This has happened already.

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/transwoman-stefonknee-wolscht-lives-life-as-a-six-year-old-girl/

"“I felt like a woman!” reports Stefonknee of his “adopted dad’s” penis inserted man-on-man into his “six year old girl” rectum at the Oasis swingers club. “I was surprised I didn’t think I was going to be pregnant, I was so much a girl. I actually have an erection right now from it so I’m just going to pull my dress down a little bit,"

Stefonknee is supported by the trans community.

twitter.com/stefonknee

So far

(a) trans-gender - OK
(b) trans-age - OK
(c) trans-racial - RACIST

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Bucketsandspoons · 14/11/2017 17:17

He's a joy, isn't he Pisa - yes, feted by the trans community and has advised government on trans issues in his country.

So far we haven't had the equality legislation to re define the world 'child' and remove all categorisation, and enable self definition, so he can be his 'authentic self' in designated child spaces.

Kursk · 14/11/2017 17:26

This world is getting strange, whenever I have to go into a town I feel like I am visiting the capital of Ron the hunger games.

busyboysmum · 14/11/2017 21:07

Wasn't sure if this had been linked anywhere before but this lovely transwoman also self identifies as paraplegic despite being completely able-bodied.

Trans-identified male claims to also be transracial Filipino
Fekko · 14/11/2017 21:09

😶

busyboysmum · 14/11/2017 21:10

m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/chloe-jennings-white_n_3625033

More details here. Weirdly his wife ends up doing all the housework. Strange that....

BriechonCheese · 14/11/2017 21:10

I identify as an old person. I want to withdraw my pension now.
Please don't misage me and make sure to use my pronoun "biddy".

pisacake · 14/11/2017 22:46

www.dailydot.com/irl/ja-du-transgender-transracial/

"Ja Du’s ‘transracial’ identity isn’t real—but being transgender definitely is"

I was honestly a bit confused at first - was this a right-wing website taking the piss, or a liberal website being 100% serious.

I had to check mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-dot/. Apparently they are serious.

"But Ja Du’s case is a bit different from other viral “transracial” sensations like Rachel Dolezal and Martina Big, who both identify as cisgender women. Ja Du says he’s also transgender and wants to undergo gender transitioning.

In the local station’s original interview with Ja Du, the reporter identifies Ja Du as a “transsexual” and proceeds to mention his assigned gender at birth and deadname, all of which are seen as signs of disrespect to the trans community."

So it's disrespectful to use his 'deadname' but it's not disrespectful to use his (presumably supposed to be) Filipino name.

If I called myself Makhosazana Mbongo because I wanted to to be transracial, it would be deemed offensive to African people. But if a trans person calls themself Candy Caine like a two-dollar stripper, then it's evil bigotry hatecrime-quick-call-the-police, if we instead refer to them using their 'deadname' of Martin Smith.

The Daily Dot continues - hilariously they actually believe this shit:

" Because of the insensitive reporting that first went viral, many outlets and Twitter users are either not noting that Ja Du is transgender or discrediting that he is transgender based on his “transracial” status."

Because transgender is totally 100% real folks, and even if Ja Du himself isn't sure, well he'll get there:

"When the Daily Dot reached out to Ja Du about how he identifies (with he/him pronouns for starters), he told us: “Transsexuality and transracialism aren’t the most important things in a sense of who I am. I believe you should be you and I don’t think your identity should be who you are. If people feel compelled to call me a woman or transsexual, that’s just what makes sense to them and I’m OK with it.”

So perhaps Ja Du isn’t quite clear on the significance of labels or the history of race and transgender people in this country—maybe he’ll get there."

Oh, and in case you wondering about the journalist's rather stripperish name, 'Ana Valens', this, folks, is 'Ana':

pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/929560177463975936/oQ7wdZ4i_400x400.jpg

Yes, 'tis a bloke, who is currently spouting off on Twitter about how being on oestrogen makes you really horny 'like a teenager'. twitter.com/SpaceDoctorPhD/status/930534193590829056

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pisacake · 14/11/2017 23:16

" Racial identity is entirely based on one’s physical body in relation to the society and culture they grow up with."

Well no that's not true. A Thai baby brought by an Indonesian family in Indonesia would pass as Indonesian, and vice versa. But a boy baby raised as a girl would not.

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NoToast · 14/11/2017 23:24

I identify as an old person. I want to withdraw my pension now.
Please don't misage me and make sure to use my pronoun "biddy".

I badly want to identify as Datun (but not cool enough) and now I really want to tell people my pronoun is biddy.

I'm going to have to be fluid.

Brokenbiscuit · 14/11/2017 23:29

Can I keep my EU passport after Brexit if I identify as a European?

FactsAreNotMean · 15/11/2017 01:04

I'm now just waiting for the first Twitter twat declaring that they were coercively assigned 1976 at birth. Probably conflating maturity with age and declaring that age is a social construct and is just a label we assign and...

Maybe followed by some 'scientific' discussion about hormone washes in the ovaries causing an egg to be released that wasn't really meant to be released yet so they're really 12 years old and you can't question their identity, you bigot.

woman11017 · 15/11/2017 07:40

Can I keep my EU passport after Brexit if I identify as a European?
Exactly.

busyboysmum · 15/11/2017 07:43

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3356084/I-ve-gone-child-Husband-father-seven-52-leaves-wife-kids-live-transgender-SIX-YEAR-OLD-girl-named-Stefonknee.html

Well we do have this lovely chap who identifies as a 6 year old child, has abandoned his wife and kids and spends his days playing with his adoptive parents ' grandchildren and nights having anal sex wirh his dad.

So that's not at all creepy. Coming soon to a classroom near you....

busyboysmum · 15/11/2017 07:47

This is satire but you wouldn't know it: theoverheardpress.com/

Blanchefleur · 15/11/2017 10:42

I am going to start identifying as someone who stops saying ‘identify as’ and starts saying ‘pretends to be’.

Shows the power of language, doesn't it? How successful would these policies have been:

'Boys can use the girls' toilets if they pretend to be girls too'.

'Boys pretending to be girls can sleep in the girls' dorm and parents should not be informed'.

'Men can fight women in the boxing ring if they pretend to be women too'.

'Rapists should be put in a women's prison if they start pretending to be women'.

'Men pretending to be women are welcome in the women's changing room in Topshop'

busyboysmum · 15/11/2017 11:25

I've started using "dressing up as" "in the guise of " and "pretending to be" as well.

It brings more clarity to the issue I feel.

Blanchefleur · 15/11/2017 11:41

Yes, indeed, busyboysmum.

'Men dressed up as women' are real women.

MsMoppet · 16/11/2017 03:01

This has been reported on Huff Post Women! The article is an amazing example of double think. I’m not very eloquent on this topic and thought you lovely people might like to comment on the article to add some rational voices.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us5a0b04b2e4b00a6eece45800?section=uss_queer-voices

nooka · 16/11/2017 05:17

Interesting case here in Canada (which has totally drunk the cool aid) where a man who identifies as a baby is clearly described as being a fetishist. No way they would describe a transgender individual like that.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 17/11/2017 08:43

'Personally the music I like best is Chicago blues. As a white Canadian woman it’s a bit of a stretch from there to thinking I’m an American black man.'

Coincidentally, I was just going to say I love Crossroads Blues, particularly Robert Johnson. As far as I'm aware I'm not black, male, or American, I have no musical talent and I've had no dealings with the devil. Saying that, I shall immediately start planning my comeback tour - PM me if you want tickets!

lizzieoak · 17/11/2017 15:22

Saskia, without Robert Johnson there would be no Freddie King etc. But he’s a bit too mellow for me - I like the citified blues better. m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSAz_lVLIJo

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