FINALLY! The Guardian writes something that is not Gender critical bashing

[AssignedPerfectAtBirth]

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/24/violence-against-women-transgender-debate?CMP=share_btn_tw

The Guardian? THE GUARDIAN?!
Wow, is the world slowly waking up?

But it's a letter - they've published it but it's not one of their journalists writing it. Though it's extremely important and a very good piece.

18 months ago they would NEVER have printed that.

Hadley Freeman last weekend

Competition is a great think, dontcyaknow? The Times was on the case before them and it make them look unreasonable

They haven't included the fact that action for trans health, who advised the government on the self identification policy proposal, incited the attack on Maria and tweeted in support of violence against women (terfs). That element is pretty important.

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It's a funny old thing, because women are half the population of the world and trans are less than 1%. Now who would you really want to piss off?

I await the backlash to this letter.

Great to see such wonderful women signing it.

It's a start.

I'm impressed they've printed it

Yes I saw Hadly's piece- had forgotten that.

Would like to see more from others.

I can't help thinking whether her piece was more 'allowable' since the BBC Gender programme in the summer.

About bloody time - although it's not their editorial. The way they reported on the attempted murder by a transwoman of an athletics official a while back was the day I stopped reading the Guardian. Will see if I can find it.

Hadley plus one bloke at the guardian have both skirted around the issue.
Very subtle though - neither have said too much.
I think the argument should be focused on the kids first.
Mermaids is surely going to go the same way as kids company. The sort of dodgy stuff they are pushing isn't going to be acceptable for much longer.

Attempted murder. When have you read a similarly sympathetic piece about a would be murderer who all but destroyed the life of their victim ?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/17/jailed-transgender-fell-runner-thought-uk-athletics-was-trying-to-kill-her

That's an awful article backingvocals.
I must say I am enjoying my subscription to The Times. This is far too little, too late from the Guardian.

I also liked Hadley Freeman's piece

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Backing,
I wrote and complained to the Guardian. They told me that the reporter was unaware of Lauren Jeska's transgender status -it hadn't come up in court - obviously a reporter with limited skills.
That was also the moment when I parted company with the Guardian - when a paper I respected starts deliberately telling lies and manipulating news to promote a particular ideology, that's the day that I stop reading them.

About time! I wonder whether this letter was sent to other newspapers or organisations too?

So, the Guardian is inviting us to 'Join the debate – email [email protected]' . Let's get writing!

I wouldn't give the Guardian too much credit - it's not like they actually wrote it. And in a sane world it would be pretty uncontroversial, speaking out against violence against women.

Fwiw, the historian Tom Holland was magnificent on Twitter earlier.

I agree: it is too little, too late. The Guardian threw women under the bus over this, and other issues. For this, I will never give them my money or respect.

Today 18:41 AssignedPerfectAtBirth

Competition is a great think, dontcyaknow? The Times was on the case before them and it make them look unreasonable

Exactly what I was thinking. Self-interested sexist cowards. And judging by the women on this thread, too little too late.

Nah. Won't be reading or buying the Guardian ever again. It has repeatedly thrown women under the bus and they can go fuck themselves.

Yes well I still have my newspaper delivery so need to walk to the newsagents to cancel. Which will prop take about 6 weeks based on my time to pay the bill .

Will just change it for the Times. There's a sentence I didn't think I would write

Too little too late. Their coverage of the transgender stabbing was utterly appalling.

I know the Daily Mail is off-limits to most of you, but their thinking on the Hyde Park attack has slightly evolved. There's still the assumption that TERFS is what gender critical femininsts call themselves rather than a label pinned to them by TA, but the article is very clear on where the violence is coming from

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4914582/Radical-transgender-group-says-FINE-punch-women.html

And an article on the Bath Spa university decision to block research on de-transitioning.

It's almost as if they're taking inspiration from this board ...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4916026/University-bars-non-PC-study-transgender-operations.html

I can probably live with that.