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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Daily Mail's take on Wednesday's violence

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Rumandraisin1 · 16/09/2017 23:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4891484/Fists-fly-politically-correct-rally.html

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ErrolTheDragon · 21/09/2017 12:53

Turner has has quite a few good columns on gender etc in the past couple of years, and the Jenni Murray interview was in the Sunday Times. However, they also have Libby Purves who is can be good but a bit behind the curve on trans I think. And then there's anti-feminist Melanie Philips. Anyway, enough different voices to blow the murdoch anti trans conspiracy theory apart.

SeaRabbit · 23/09/2017 06:26

The Times has a news item about Bath Spa withdrawing permission to carry out research into people regretting changing gender. I haven't seen this anywhere else:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/university-of-bath-bars-research-into-transgender-surgery-regrets-ddxxlbfzh

[If that doesn't work, can the pp who mentioned you can share a Times link please let me know how? I'm on the MN App so can't scroll back.]

Datun · 23/09/2017 07:25

It's behind a pay wall.

But there seems to be a trend.

The 60 Minutes programme in Australia pulled a segment about a detransitioner at the last minute, having advertised it all week.

Australia’s 60 Minutes program failed to air a segment on a transgender teen Sunday night after advertising it all week. The promoted story featured a young man named Patrick Mitchell, who was administered estrogen tablets from the age of twelve by his mother, Ali Mitchell, after she obtained the prescriptions under false pretenses by claiming they were somehow needed for herself.

“Patrick Mitchell tells: “I transitioned into a girl… now I’m a boy again”

This Aussie schoolboy started growing breasts and transitioning into a girl at just 12 years old – before he realised he made a terrible mistake!

Now a feminized 14-year-old male teen with breasts, Patrick says he was misdiagnosed, and is seeking to reverse the changes.

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/09/05/australias-60-minutes-pulls-teen-detransitioner-story-ahead-of-same-sex-marriage-vote/

I'm not entirely sure of the significance of pulling it before the postal vote on gay marriage, but I think it's because it is seen as all part and parcel of the same thing and they didn't want to affect the gay marriage vote.

The mother said :

"When you won’t blink an eye at your son marrying a 6’4” broad shouldered bride with facial hair and an Adam’s apple … maybe – and only then – then comment on ‘what you would do’"

Which I don't really understand. But it sounds like she is less concerned about an internal sense of gender than she is about what the neighbours might say.

Perhaps someone else will understand that comment better than me though.

Either way, detransitioning stories are being stamped on.

Sacrificing children for the sake of upholding a flawed ideology.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2017 08:03

Here's the link you need
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/university-of-bath-bars-research-into-transgender-surgery-regrets-ddxxlbfzh?shareToken=70783742c12799b39e2f10664c486806

And here is the comment on it, by the ever-cogent Janice Turner

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/even-asking-questions-is-now-transphobic-ztk3rlrfk?shareToken=28c0436fcf3ec5c31efe376d1b74f8f5

Searabbit - on the ipad app its the icon in the bottom right with the arrow, then click copy; I just checked the mobile app and on that there are Save and Share links near the top of articles.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2017 08:05

I don't know if its possible for people to then c&p those links and use them elsewhere...

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