Once again what is considered an ordinary and mundane task when done by a woman is madecsuper dpectacular by a man...

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Millions of single mothers do their daughters hair every day. But here a single father shows us that we have been doing it all wrong.

Men have hands. There is no reason they cannot style hair. But he has become an internet sensation.

It's like when a woman cooks she is a cook, but when a man does it he is a chef.

A woman who makes clothes is a seamstress, a man who does it is a fashion designer.

I am willing to be told iabu or that I am overthinking and bitter and twisted. But was wondering what others thought?

The works canteen or the school canteen have cooks - restaurants have chefs

Just hold on there a wee moment. Restaurants have chefs that are mainly men, and who make a lot of money. They are mainly reviewed by men too.

Now give me Delia Smith, Fanny Craddock, Mary Berry et al any day. And of course the wonderful Two Fat Ladies, Jennifer Patterson and Clarissa Dickson.

Just google 'first woman too' and it's full of women doing things men have been doing for years.

Well actually...a hell of a lot of 'first woman to' come up as males. First woman on the frontline is a male who trained as a male and decided recently he was a woman, so now the first woman to actually do this, will get no recognition.

Same for the matrix 'sisters'. Males who take the glory for highest grossing film trilogy by a woman/women ffs...

I use the word seamstress. I have never heard anyone describe Delia as a chef, nor Mary Berry.

I love the word seamstress. It's magical and conveys a person who can indeed do wonders.

I have never heard any of the women I mentioned above described as a cook. And how could I omit Lawson?

As on another thread I recommend Google. Here is a start.

www.bbc.co.uk/food/chefs

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8009970.stm

www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9848867/Delia-Smith-vows-never-to-make-another-cookery-programme.html

www.marieclaire.co.uk/entertainment/people/love-mary-berry-here-are-12-things-we-bet-you-didn-t-know-about-her-110545

Just hold on there a wee moment. Restaurants have chefs that are mainly men, and who make a lot of money. They are mainly reviewed by men too

What do you mean by "chef" ? It is not a specific term. I'm not sure what your point is. The woman who cook in restaurants are called chefs- there might be less of them that does not mean they are not chefs. Allegra McEvedy for example is a chef.

I use the word seamstress

I'm struggling to imagine any situation other than a karaoke performance of Tiny Dancer where it would be appropriate or relevant to call anyone a "seamstress". Are you seriously suggesting that female designers, whether at the Vivienne Westwood level or straight out of art school are called "seamstresses"?

The only person I've ever heard use this term was the groupie Pamela Des Barres who described herself as such because she used to embroider clothes for Robert Plant.

I love the word seamstress. It's magical and conveys a person who can indeed do wonders

Well the OP thinks it is an inferior version of "designer".

I quite like it (Tiny Dancer is lovely and is about Maxine Taupin the seamstress for the band) but by no stretch of the imagination is it used to designate female designers "seamstresses" as opposed to (male) "designers"

Yawn! zzzzzz

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/05/outrage-italian-cuisine-nigella-lawson-angers-italians-controversial/

Beloved chef Nigella

You really don't like being contradicted do you?

Isn't "Yawn" the type of response which feminists complain about men doing when presented with facts they don't like?

Sorry, as a partner of a chef...
A cook is some one who hasn't been taught professionally. A chef has worked for the title chef snd had to pass examinations.
Sorry, I know this isn't related to your post but I really needed to point this out!

I do get your post though. I totally agree not the chef bit though

Maybe I need to get out more if this bothers me!

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Sorry, as a partner of a chef...
A cook is some one who hasn't been taught professionally. A chef has worked for the title chef snd had to pass examinations.
Sorry, I know this isn't related to your post but I really needed to point this out!

Apologies- that seems a perfectly reasonable distinction and it is based on training and experience, not sex.

www.culinaryschools.org/famous-chefs/jamie-oliver/#context/api/listings/prefilter.

Studied and went to France.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Berry

studied for her qualifications as much as Jamie Oliver did.

Now Fanny Cradock is a different kettle of fish! Her background is theatre and acting!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Cradock

Nigella Lawson is the epitome of a celebrity chef. Saw an opening and ran with it. Consummate business woman.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigella_Lawson#Education

Prue Leith is the hostess with the mostest when it comes to qualifications

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prue_Leith

Don't get me started on Gregg (two gs) Wallace

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Wallace

Ds is sick this week.

We've taken two days leave each to look after him.

The reaction from his work has been markedly different to the reaction from mine. He's a dedicated dad, swoon, oh aren't you wonderful.
I'm uncommitted, where's my nanny/childcare/can't I work around it, etc etc. Tuts and frowns and it'll be held against me

Do you work at the same place Anatidae?
I worked at a place where it was all tuts and frowns if anyone's child was ill (or indeed if anyone was ill!), and "can't someone else look after them". Crucially, none of the senior management (male CEO, 2 x female senior managers) had children.
Everywhere I've worked since has been much more accomodating, male or female.

No, same industry, different companies.

Usual lip service paid to flexibility but wow betide you if you actually use it. Their idea of flexibility is that YOU work 24/7,