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Hospital refusing demeaning fancy dress donation

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cordeliaflynne · 22/08/2017 20:58

This feels like a good thing to me:

Ludlow Hospital refuses 'demeaning' fancy dress donation - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-41011908

The best way I can describe it is that it feels like the start of the idea that men dressing up as a women for comic effect is a bit like 'blacking up' or am I reading too much in to it?

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RustyParker · 23/08/2017 16:34

I have several friends who are Nurses / HCP and the amount of sexual harrasment and assault they have to face daily is truly sickening. This "sexy nurse" shit perpetuates that Nurses are "up for it" and fair game.

I noticed one of the name tags said "Midwife Mark". I don't think that was a random choice based on alliteration Hmm

As pp said, I think the fact the Trust asked them not to dress as Nurses prior to the event is the main issue here. Agree that the men thought they knew best and decided to do it anyway.

nowaynoway · 23/08/2017 16:39

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Xenophile · 23/08/2017 17:16

So, despite asking these people not to do this, for good solid reasons, fuck em, eh nowaynoway? Fuck nurses as well. Hmm

babyboomersrock · 23/08/2017 17:25

It's a bit of fun For whom? What makes it fun?

Who cares what they're dressed as If you read some of the previous posts, you'll get an idea who cares, and why.

To a struggling NHS trust they should be grateful for any donations Really? No matter how it was raised or where it came from?

These men had been asked not to dress up - but they went ahead because their desire to dress like something out of a Carry On film was more important than the wishes of the NHS trust they claim to support. Utter arrogance.

LonginesPrime · 23/08/2017 17:35

What about tarts and vicars parties ? Do you see Vicars protesting that they should be banned?

  1. I shouldn't imagine too many actual vicars get invited to them.

  2. They are misogynistic and elevate men's position in society while lowering women's, so while it would be odd to 'ban' them, I would hope that people nowadays would recognise the theme as dated and inappropriate, as they do with Carry On films, etc.

  3. I should imagine if a church were offered money raised by way of a tarts and vicars party, they would probably think twice before accepting the money too.

DeleteOrDecay · 23/08/2017 17:36

It's not really fun. There's nothing amusing about men wearing dresses. In fact 9 times out of 10 they look ridiculous and not in the funny wayConfused

Or maybe that 'joke' just goes completely over my head.

SeaWitchly · 23/08/2017 20:34

It's disrespectful to nurses. Why did they all run round dressed as 'slutty nurses'. Nurses work bloody hard and don't get the respect they deserve. It's patronising and sexist.

^This.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 23/08/2017 23:05

I wonder if, having been told by the trust not to do this, if the money has been obtained fraudulently? If they knew the money would be accepted by the trust they have misled the donors.

Is it up to them to decide which other charity will benefit? Or should they make an effort to hand it back ( ok not terribly practical) but they should not assume if one donated for one cause one is happy to give to another?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 23/08/2017 23:05

"not be accepted"

FairfaxAikman · 24/08/2017 21:12

I'm trying to debate this on a male-dominated forum and it's like trying to put out a forest fire by pissing on it.

Apparently stating "They accepted it in past years and asked them not to do it this year - and were ignored. How many times do they have to say "no" before the group realised that they meant "no"?" Is comparing it to rape (yes I know it was adopted as a slogan by anti-rape campaigners) and it's "amazing that in the 21st century some woman think that some men believe that women say one thing and mean another", men suffer minimisation too, and the debate is only fuelling my agenda.

I hope none of them have daughters.

AssassinatedBeauty · 27/08/2017 23:44

Apparently one of the organisers is insisting they'll do it again next year despite being asked not to.

Men 'to repeat nurse uniform fundraiser' after Ludlow Hospital cash rejection
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-41066828

Seeingadistance · 27/08/2017 23:58

The guy in the article says he hasn't come across anyone that has a problem with it.

Apart from the Chief Executive of that particular Health Trust who has been quite clear that she has a problem with it.

So, yet again, we're back to men knowingly violating boundaries set by women, while declaring they're the good guys here/it's just a joke/don't be so uptight.* Select some or all which apply.

powershowerforanhour · 28/08/2017 00:08

TOP BANTZ for charrideee....
Sigh.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 28/08/2017 01:29

His comment about stopping people dressing up for the London Marathon is idiotic. The difference is the costumes there are imaginative and genuinely funny.

It isn't a pantomime horse but here is a pantomime camel

And here are blokes in female costumes who just look very silly.

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