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I may well get deleted or kicked off for this, I don't know. Tell me if we're not supposed to talk about other forums here and I'll report myself.

But have any of you visited Reddit's "ask transgender" page (https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/)

This post in particular has me particularly for some reason now (though it's far from unique on that subreddit).

How ... but ... what?

We get to wear pretty dresses and be short?

What about dwarves?

They're short. I doubt they feel privileged, though.

So clearly has very little understand of what womanhood is.

Why are people so fucked up. I mean, the constant whinging and whining of these fucking idiots is relentless. Its everywhere. Why are they being entertained? Why are they being taken seriously? Its so fucking tedious. When the hell is humanity going to grow the fuck up.

ToneDeafHamster

Hear, hear. Idiots. Relentless. Dangerous. Fucked up.

Here, have a shit ton of personalised civil rights.

OfficerVanHalen

I am specifically referring to transactivists who think tramswomen simply cannot rape because they are oppressed and an oppressed group can't be accused of a crime.

Yes, idiots is an appropriate reaction.

OfficerVanHalen

Sorry. I am mixing up my threads. I was referring to this post.

Don't really care if it is helpful, to be honest. They are fucking idiots. What would be helpful would be to stop encouraging the idiocy in the name of being tolerant or progressive, so people can feel smug about how trendy and inclusive they are.

I recall lots of this type of 'who does she think she is?' resentment of women with natural qualities some didn't have from school.. The skinny bitch, the 'she knows she's pretty that's her fault' stuff.. Isn't it just what women do to each other anyway?

I'm not really sure I understand your point?

I recall lots of this type of 'who does she think she is?' resentment of women with natural qualities some didn't have from school..

But I'm absolutely certain those natural female qualities didn't include a penis.

www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/6v15zm/so_i_am_a_girl/

I don't mind wearing men's clothing. But every time I dress in feminine clothes I feel... better. I like being pretty. I actually just shaved my legs and it feels SO wonderful oh my god. I've never had the opportunity for fully dress up, but I want to so badly. On a side note, why the fuck is men's underwear NOT made out of the same material as panties? So much more soft and comfortable

'Not a fetish'

I'm not laughing...

And I am unfortunately very aware of the incels subreddits.

Interestingly they are extremely jealous of girls/women too.

OfficerVanHalen

I've never i nderstood that argument, though. Yes, the Internet is full of freaks and violent weirdos. Tons of them massively looking forward to the legitimacy of invading female space.

They make zero secret of it.

Similar to when women show the violent actions of transactivists. They get told well you can find people like that anywhere.

Well, yes. That's the point.

I dont see any 'pointing and laughing'? As far as I can see, most posters are horrified. Personally, I dont find misogyny funny.

Take it you don't read that subreddit then. The 3 examples on this thread are not random, they are pretty much normal.

The one I posted was 1 of 3 just on the first page that were all along those lines.

But hey, we must be making it all up, right?

So we're not pointing and laughing, we're pointing and tutting. That's just talking. We're talking about it. You're just saying shut up about it. No thanks. We'll talk about what we like. Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't help anything.

Never heard of incel before, just had a loo out of curiosity. Omg, it's absolutely horrific- it's full of future serial killers all getting to talk to each other.

The point is, OfficerVanHalen, is that they are male. So their internet groups are often quite similar in their misogyny to MRA groups, incels etc. I think some of them are incel.

OfficerVanHalen

Please listen. Please.

No-one is denying that gender dysphoria is a real and crippling illness. No one.

No one is denying that presenting as a woman that helps to alleviate the symptoms.

And I don't think there is a woman here who wishes harm to anybody in that situation. No pointing. No tutting. No laughing.

These are not the people who present the problem. These are not the people campaigning. These are not the people who want to violate women's boundaries.

Believe me, these are not the people who want these laws.

The ones who are driving this are misogynistic, predatory, unstable.

It is they, and only they, who are pushing for self identification. I can show you thousands, literally thousands of blogs, articles, posts, websites, threats, from these people. Awful, violent, anticipatory.

There is a real tipping point in this debate. When you suddenly realise that the people you originally defended are not the ones. They really are not.

We have had transwomen on here, many parents whose children are trans and all of them so appreciative of us recognising the difference.

Mothers who cannot get any kind of treatment for their children unless it is hormones and surgery. At their wits end. Digging deep or borrowing money to fund private treatment.

Just yesterday IAmEatingaCurry a transwomen, telling other women to stop shouting transphobia, or bigot because this is ruining her life. Because of transactivists.

I, personally, have been in touch with a mother on here whose child is trans who has said over and over on the threads how grateful she is that we can see the difference. Because her child cannot access treatment unless said child has hormones and surgery. Because of transactivists.

The threats you refer to are neither unconnected nor are they random. They are absolutely everywhere.

I deliberately do not post most of what I read. I do not want to be accused of sensationalism.

But, believe me, it is toe curling, fist clenching stuff. The sheer quantity is difficult to stomach.

Please, please try and see the difference. And the scale.

@OfficerVanHalen

Actually, I find the feminism boards to be incredibly supportive of the transgender community. There are several trans people who regularly post here, along with many parents of transgender children.

A lot of us are concerned about the way that society treats transgender people, i.e. Encouraging them to have non-essential surgery and take life-changing medication. Personally, I think there's a better way to help these people live easier lives.

On the rare occasion that somebody posts something offensive about trans people, most posters speak up and report them. I know that I do.

OfficerVanHalen

I will have to take issue with your post. The fact that I posted a screenshot from somewhere else, does not take the meaning out of that screenshot!

Are you seriously trying to tell me that the men who post this guff and there are literally thousands of them, aren't relevant to the discussion?

They are the discussion.