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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

You lot are a bad influence on me.

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sashh · 17/08/2017 14:00

I was offering the cat a bit of chicken yesterday and she wasn't as interested as I thought she would be.

My friend said, "maybe she is self identifying as a rabbit and wants lettuce instead"

That's how much you have infiltrated my thoughts and influenced my arguments with said friend.

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SophoclesTheFox · 19/08/2017 18:41

French carrots are also female.

I'm amused by the thought of cats checking their privilege- given the nonchalance with which they allow us to serve them, I don't think they spend too much time worrying about punching down Grin

MelsMam · 19/08/2017 18:44

Excellent point from your friend.

kelpeed · 19/08/2017 23:51

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VestalVirgin · 20/08/2017 00:41

MissMoney, how do you know this thing between the carrot's legs it is not a ladypeen?

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That's actually rather funny. Usually, it is done by using the English term gender for, well, gender.

You see, German only has one word for sex and gender, "Geschlecht". To show that you mean gender, you (used to) say "soziales Geschlecht", i.e. "social sex/gender", as in feminist debate it used to be universally known and agreed on that gender is socially constructed nonsense.

Leading to sentences such as this one (paraphrased): "For some people, the gender other people perceive and treat them as is not the same as their social gender."

Which of course is nonsensical - how can their social gender be different from what people treat them as?

But they apparently used the word that originated in actual feminism, and didn't do the work needed to make it fit with nonsensical genderism and identity delusions.

on whether foxes male or female, my dog has had the operation. i guess i would refer him as a das. is that right?

Actually, German grammar treats castrated males as male.

A horse of unspecified sex is "das Pferd", but a male castrated horse is "der Wallach", same as "der Hengst" (a stallion).
People used to know that operations don't change sex.

KickAssAngel · 20/08/2017 00:58

Very, VERY good point that in animals people don't start calling them by gender neutral pronouns even if they've been sterilized. Nor do we do that to women with hysterectomies (or men who have the snip, although that is significantly less of a change).

In other news, here's a cat, checking their privilege.

You lot are a bad influence on me.
VestalVirgin · 20/08/2017 01:31

Pussy privilege! Grin

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sashh · 20/08/2017 07:44

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I was going to say, "they use English" but as a joke.

Nor do we do that to women with hysterectomies

That's good, I'm going through the change and only have one ovary, not sure how society would discuss me.

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VestalVirgin · 20/08/2017 15:50

That's good, I'm going through the change and only have one ovary, not sure how society would discuss me.

That's a good point. Of course no one would suggest that you are any less female because of it.

I think we went wrong by calling the old fashioned transsexual males who had surgeries and so on, "women" in the first place. We never should have done that. They are just men without testicles and penis. But it is universally accepted that not every man who lacks testicles and a penis is to be considered a woman - just those who want to. And thus, slowly, the "want to" became the sole reason of why we should consider people the other sex from what they actually are.

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