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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Stories like this make me fear the world we live in

48 replies

TheChineseChicken · 29/07/2017 19:31

Not even sure if this is the right place to post this. But I heard about this today:

www.google.co.uk/amp/news.sky.com/story/amp/teenage-rape-victim-raped-again-by-driver-she-flagged-down-for-help-10964128

I think it's the first news story that has made me literally burst into tears. How can people be so awful? What kind of world am I bringing my daughter into?

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Fairyflaps · 30/07/2017 10:14

Why are we surprised that men's reactions to a girl in distress is to rape her?
We live in a world where too many men see a vulnerable woman or girl and see it as an opportunity to get their rocks off.
One of the world's leading human rights organisations thinks the appropriate response to female poverty is to pay her to shove your dick in her.
Men jerk off to videos of women and children being raped.
Men have sex with trafficked women then complain on punternet that she didn't even bother to act as if she was enjoying it.
A woman or girl who is unconscious or obliviously drunk is seen by many men and boys as an opportunity - and these men don't consider themselves to be rapists. And sadly, despite this country's rape laws, too many juries give those men the benefit of the doubt.
So I am horrified by this story, I am desperately sorry for the poor child. But as we live in a culture where men's access to women's bodies is prioritised above women's rights, I am not surprised.

AssassinatedBeauty · 30/07/2017 10:37

Sadly, @AmyGardner, I can quite believe that it was two unconnected events.

shinynewusername · 30/07/2017 16:53

Agree fairy. Many men have been conditioned by porn to be turned on by rape, especially that of a schoolgirl Angry

hesterton · 30/07/2017 17:01

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Elendon · 30/07/2017 17:12

Well I've no idea what the men who raped this girl were wearing.

All I know is that she was raped and then raped again.

I believe her.

annandale · 30/07/2017 17:19

Amy it didn't occur to me that they could be connected....

The first rape involved 2 men. At a station.

Gileswithachainsaw · 30/07/2017 17:26

Omfg hest

Im.lost for words....

TheChineseChicken · 30/07/2017 17:35

hesterton how revolting

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MargotLovedTom1 · 30/07/2017 17:42

Fucking savages.

Xenophile · 30/07/2017 18:29

Why would anyone think they might be connected?

As Fairy says, men see women in distress as an opportunity.

AnotherConcernedCitizen · 30/07/2017 18:38

@Gileswithachainsaw

They can’t help it. Nothing says male privilege more than a situation where men have basically admitted to being unable to control their sexual and/or violent urges towards women and children yet the logical conclusion is not discussions about curbing these urges/castrations/curfews etc but victim blaming.

They can’t help it unless they’re wearing a dress. Sorry to bring trans into it but I’ve got to the stage where I firmly believe the only thing that will help women/girls worldwide is an evolutionary increase in strength. An intervention from Mother Nature. Does anyone believe we would have to put up with this sh*t if the average woman had a fifty fifty chance in a fight with the average male?

Elendon · 30/07/2017 19:01

Well I know that I would be dangerous with a chainsaw, sharp knives, scissors, a lawn mower (don't laugh), and several chemicals, herbs and spices to hand.

Fortunately, I use them all wisely. Because I'm a woman.

AnotherConcernedCitizen · 30/07/2017 19:09

@Elendon

I meant average woman vs average male without weapons. This is not a computer game Grin

Elendon · 30/07/2017 19:11

What I don't have is a penis. Testosterone. Years of indoctrination.

Elendon · 30/07/2017 19:14

Unfortunately Another these acts of rape do seem to be a computer game played out in life.

And those women/girls cannot ever say they don't want to be gendered. They don't have a choice. Because they are female.

And now I need to rest and eat and watch the final episode of The Handmaid's Tale.

Adviceplease360 · 30/07/2017 19:20

Horrendous. This is exactly why we need the death penalty. These men will not change.

AnotherConcernedCitizen · 30/07/2017 19:28

Enjoy Handmaids Tale but...'What I don't have is a penis. Testosterone. Years of indoctrination.'

The indoctrination is needed to justify the brute strength used on women by men and the degree/type of indoctrination varies across time and cultures. What never varies (to significant degree) is women being physically weaker than men. That change (hear ye Mother Nature) would eventually change societies/imbalance between men and women.

Elendon · 30/07/2017 19:53

the death penalty

Let's hang them on a wall and let the blood run free in the streets. Is this what you want?

The death penalty won't stop male violence and rape. It exists. In China they have the death penalty bus (and it's females who clean it out after). In the USA they have the death penalty (and it's females who clean it out after).

I'm fed up cleaning up after men. At least in Saudi Arabia, it's a man's job to clean up after a public execution.

Elendon · 30/07/2017 19:54

By the way. I'm being sarcastic in the above statement.

I do not and never will support the death penalty. Period.

Elendon · 30/07/2017 19:57

Or why don't we just throw them off a building?

Would that help?

Or why don't men just realise what is being done to women and start cleaning up the mess they make in a civilised manner.

Now off to watch the TV and sit in comfort on my sofa and get cuddles.

AnotherConcernedCitizen · 30/07/2017 20:05

'Or why don't men just realise what is being done to women and start cleaning up the mess they make in a civilised manner.'

They know. That's what the indoctrination is for and also to make us feel womanly for cleaning up after.

Surely Handmaid finish now? Grin

OpalIridescence · 30/07/2017 20:06

I don't think I have ever read of a situation that sums up what I learnt when I was 11 years old onwards. The massively high proportion of men who do see girls as a tool to make themselves feel good, not as a human being.

I am 36 now and have been on the receiving end of alot of male 'attention' in all its varying degrees of entitlement.

However, the years between 11 and 18 were vicious, friends dad's, teachers at school, strangers on the street etc. The men were downright aggressive. Almost as if they know you are too young to understand you don't deserve it or that people won't believe you and they can just take what they want.
I read this latest incident and my heart breaks for this girl, to be used and attacked like this and then to look for help only to be attacked again. How will she recover or have faith in any one again?

I don't know what can help or bring change, feels like howling at the moon.

MiddleEnglandLives · 30/07/2017 22:54

I am positive I remember a similar story from when I was in my teens in Manchester in the 80s. My teenage years were vicious too, male aggression and that malicious joy they take in hurting women is totally obscene. It's appalling how much crap women are just expected to absorb and live with. I don't really have enough words to express the horror and disgust that I felt in my teens towards this world and the cultures that encourage it, that view women essentially as fair prey.

On the plus side, the official culture until the trans-fantasy started was getting better. Too slowly, too little, but at least one police force now claims to take sexual harassment and misogynistic hate speech seriously. I wish we could do something about evolution's little joke on women as well.

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