I'm just going to hang out in here all day

[WhichJob]

Sigh. I'm just so tired.

I'm tired of women not getting paid as much as men

I'm tired of women and children dying at the hands of men

I'm tired of women not having the same opportunities as men

I'm tired of women being sexually assaulted and raped and then blamed for it!!!

I'm tired of men and women who make excuses and claim that men have it just as bad because some men are also victims of domestic violence and because more men commit suicide.

I'm tired of fighting for a cause that feels like it is going backwards.

Tomorrow I will be fine, but today I am tired.

Aw
It is sucky isn't it. Don't know how we've got to such a backlash

It is almost like it suits society for women to be oppressed. I wonder why that is...

I'm with you WhichJob.

It's so tiring. We carefully circled our wagons, and now the guns and arrows are flying thick and fast, decimating the canvas and splitting the wood from all sides.

I genuinely envy women who don't see it. I'd rather go back to that vague sense of 'there's something wrong with me, but the world's ok' rather than now: 'I'm ok, but there's something wrong with the world'

I also feel like more people need to speak out! I am so proud of people like Mary Beard, Caroline Criado-Perez etc who speak out knowing that for a good 24 hours afterwards they will be trolled on Twitter.

But I wish more people accepted the truth; it is dangerous being a woman and that is the fault of men.

People would prefer to dispute that rather than address inequality.

Walking, I have wondered whether I should just keep walking by. I always try to calmly (always calmly and giving extra weight to #notallmen etc) lest I be seen as a crazed feminist set on being offended, point out the feminist viewpoint.

But it even pisses me off that some of my close friends don't like to call themselves feminists. Men have done such a number on us.

I'm with you, whichjob.

I'm on here at the moment because I'm waiting to hear some news which will dictate the course my life takes over the coming years. I can't concentrate on anything while I'm waiting, and while getting stuck into debates is helping pass the time and take my mind off things, it is also wearing me down a bit.

Feministy hugs to you

PoochSmooch

Hope it's the news you want. Rooting for you.

Thanks Pooch. Will you definitely hear today? Fingers crossed for you.

Feminist hugs always welcome! I sometimes feel surrounded by Daily Mail readers.

Thank you both. I don't know if I will hear today...that's what's driving me crazy! Sorry, I me-railed your thread there

I always get a jolt if someone I like turns out to read the Daily Mail. Disappointing.

I'm with you WhichJob and often feel the same way. Remember how many women are with you and fighting against it all.

I hope the news is good PoochSmooch. The posts you've made in the meantime have been, as is always the case, excellent!

It's tiring WhichJob. But we are strong. It's worth the struggle.

Rest and recuperate. We'll fight for you today

Thank you nolove, that's very kind

Hope you are OK pooch x

Thanks Stickle. Pooch, derail away! Always happy to give a fellow feminist some space to share her worries.

I'm a namechanger by the way.

NoLove, in RL it feels like so many people feel the opposite to us about so many issues.

This section of Mumsnet has educated me so much, helped me to articulate myself better and challenged my own ideas. I'm so glad it exists.

This forum is indeed fantastic WhichJob. I'm lucky in that my friends are feminists but the level of misogyny amongst many is overwhelming, it worries me how commonplace and accepted it is. So much of what I've heard even from people I've come across is worrying, let alone how pervasive misogyny is through society. I am also frequently overwhelmed by the level of male violence against women and girls and that it barely registers as news but I shan't go into that too much here! The feeling of being tired by it all is something I very much identify with and it frequently really gets to me, to the extent my head seems filled with it and I just want it all cleared out (I'm articulating this badly). It's heartening to think of all the fantastic women and girls fighting against it all in so many ways and none of us being alone.

It is awful, but you know what? A year or so ago, is he reading feminist articles and feel like I was all but alone. Today there seems to be loads of women (and not just activists but every daynirnak women) who have woken up to what's going on - and they're angry. It really does give me hope.

I've put the kettle on if anyone wants a cuppa.

We do seem to have a few allies in RL. Mainly men who dont want to be told to suck ladydick.

all round

I hear you, OP. Sometimes I wish I could go back to being oblivious...I even remember years and years ago telling some friends that I wasn't a feminist!😳😳 I wish I didn't harbour the resentment towards men that I do....sometimes it scares me how I seethe at their behaviour and their casual destructiveness. I would like to go back to the time when I liked men. But now, I can't see what there is to like.😒

The good thing is that I can educate my children and I always challenge thoughtless words people use. I end up feeling very annoyed and let down by people when I listen to the crap they come out with. I just try to get them to think a bit differently. Some people have told me they do think differently now about feminism because I challenged them, so that is one good thing!!

Lots of my seemingly bright friends don't identify as feminists and that makes me sad and angry that even wanting equality has been twisted by the male agenda into something women don't want to support in case they aren't seen as the 'cool girl' anymore.

I have lots of different groups of friends, some are definitely feminists, others just seem to think 'WhichJob' goes on a bit!

OP me too.

I'm on my period, very very emotional and I had a mini breakdown yesterday when trying to explain how important this is and how scared I am to my DP.

I just don't know what to do. It's on my mind all the time and I question my every thought and action and the reasoning behind it. Do I really want to shave my legs? Or wear makeup sometimes? Why do I continue to go along with so many misogynistic tools of the patriarchy?

MineKraft, it is overwhelming isn't it? No I don't want to shave my legs really if I'm honest because I'm a lazy so and so but I also don't want to be viewed as unattractive from the vain part of me.

My DH is totally on board which is something and he is great with the DC too and corrects sexist messaging (changes the Dr from a man to a woman in bedtime stories for example) so that helps. Perhaps we need an ongoing tea and sympathy thread for us when we need a rest day? for you too. I actually could really do with tea and cake in real life!

I'd love a tea and sympathy thread! You know that quote "the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off"? Well I'm not feeling very free yet.