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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Daily Mail comments

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Collidascope · 21/06/2017 10:36

Does anyone else, in their masochistic or morbidly curious moments, go on there and look through the comments?

There's a "woman are stronger than men" article today with comments that are entirely predictable but still made me furious.

Most claim that men have created and built everything of worth in the world and this proves their superiority. These people genuinely seem to believe the horseshit they're coming out with. I know the Mail is wank but it still appeals to a lot of people. Makes me absolutely despair if this is what most men are secretly thinking.
I feel like we need to start having sex studies in school to explain why everything the kids are learning centres men so we don't just repeat this shit down the generations. Grr.

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DJBaggySmalls · 21/06/2017 12:29

I once had an account to troll them. I used to post comments underneath like 'except Madam Curie' and they'd argue back that a man actually did the work and she got the credit.
I cant tell if they actually believe it, or if its just the massive goady chip on their shoulder. Either way, they hate women.

I once argued that the DM comments section was needed to let men blow off steam and not punch their wives; in the same way they claim porn stops rape. If they could have got hold of me they would have torn me limb from limb.
It seems to do some good though as even some of the men thought the comments went too far.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 21/06/2017 13:51

Makes me absolutely despair if this is what most men are secretly thinking.

If most men think like the DM comments men I do despair.
I think (hope) that isn't the case.

Collidascope · 21/06/2017 14:30

It's the green arrows that worry me. I guess it's the fervent misogynists who comment but red or green arrowing is easy enough for everyone and these choice comments are upvoted!
I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't inflict them on others just because I'm hooked. Don't read it you don't want.
DJ, I bet your comments went down like a lead balloon. Feminists are even worse than brown people by Mail standards.

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 21/06/2017 14:47

It never fails to amaze me how men like to claim a share of the credit for other men's inventions, yet take massive offense when you then suggest that if they do that, they should also share the blame for all the destruction and havoc men have caused. They want a share in DaVinci? Take a share in Hitler too, then!

Collidascope · 21/06/2017 15:15

Yes, Last. NAMALT doesn't apply when a small minority of men manage to create or discover (or do a Watson and Crick and just pretend to discover) something good. Suddenly every Tom, Dick and Harry who hasn't even grasped how to use full stops or capital letters is claiming those extra IQ points for himself.

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MakeItStopNeville · 21/06/2017 15:18

I once made a comment on the DM and it got 8400 red arrows. Now, THAT was a good day!

terryleather · 21/06/2017 15:20

I used to read btl and comment on the Guardian website (their policy of deleting anything even mildly GC has done it for me so I'm not there so much now) and some of the stuff on there would probably not be out of place in the DM comments section when it comes to anything female focused/feminist.

Dispiriting to the say the least...

QueenLaBeefah · 21/06/2017 15:29

The absolute worst is the Independent - I don't think their site is moderated at all. The misogyny, racism and homophobia is seriously scary.

thatstoast · 21/06/2017 15:34

Trolling the daily mail sounds like my kind of fun. Guardian is bad too but as pp says they deleted so much it's barely worth looking.

ThymeLord · 21/06/2017 15:35

When i'm in a really shit mood I go on the DM website and challenge every twisted misogynistic sexist comment there is. I get many red arrows and usually called a feminazi.

On a serious note, it really does worry me. I seem to say it repeatedly but things are going backwards in terms of womens rights and the way feminism is viewed in general.

NoLoveofMine · 21/06/2017 15:42

That is a brilliant point LastGirlOnTheLeft. I'd never considered that before and am going to steal it. Or how if you speak of misogyny and male violence the same ones will be outraged and accuse you of "man hating".

NoLoveofMine · 21/06/2017 15:43

It worries me as well ThymeLord as I've seen comments similar and even more forceful than those on the DM comments from many boys my age (hopefully they'll grow up one day but some of the misogyny is shocking).

Collidascope · 21/06/2017 15:49

I think the Independent ones shock me because it's a lefty and, naively, I assume its readers are at least a bit progressive. With the Mail, I generally expect the comments to look like something you'd find daubed in shit at a particularly gruesome crime scene, but it's disappointing to find comments with a little more punctuation but similar content on the Guardian and Independent.

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ThymeLord · 21/06/2017 15:53

The trouble is though, although it's easy to dismiss the DM as the chip paper it is, it has an absolutely enormous readership so these people are the majority.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 21/06/2017 16:07

I've mentioned this before but I'm banned from commenting on the DM website because I offended their readers. It's one of my proudest moments.,

slug · 21/06/2017 16:26

To read the Daily Mail you need a reading age of 9. I see no reason to assume the commentators have a comprehension level significantly above that.

I may have pointed this out in the comments occasionally and been deleted Grin

ThymeLord · 21/06/2017 16:34

You do realise you have to tell us what you were banned for saying Grin

whoputthecatout · 21/06/2017 16:40

I think the Independent ones shock me because it's a lefty and, naively, I assume its readers are at least a bit progressive.

Never assume that OP. There is nothing like lefty males for being misogynists Grin

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 21/06/2017 16:41

There was a story (literally a story) about Muslims wanting to ban children being taught about Easter and the crucifixion. I merely pointed out that the crucifixion was not an appropriate thing to teach to children, what with all the torture, gore and death. And suggested it was akin to an episode of the Walking Dead. This was the last of a number of transgressions, and apparently I offended hundreds of people so wasn't welcome.

OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 21/06/2017 17:05

I definitely prefer the Daily Mail brand of misogyny to the Guardian brand of misogyny - at least it's blatant enough to know there's no point arguing with the fuckwits.

Sadly I think that at least 50% of men think like this, but the lefty ones are just better hiding it or WORSE citing some evo-psych bull crap and not realising it's about as convincing as saying "well the bible says..."

Collidascope · 21/06/2017 17:09

I want to know what MakeItStop's downvoted 8400 times comment was too.

I think the best one I got was on an article about Trump's Muslim ban. Lots of people were agreeing that he was right and that banning Muslims would lead to a veritable paradise with lambs lying down with lions etc. I pointed out that the best way to achieve this utopia was to ban all men if we were going down the road of tarring a whole group with the actions of a minority. There were thousands of comments and I was downvoted to second from bottom and got about 30 replies abusing me.

Thyme, the massive readership is what bothers me. It's that and the arrow system that makes me wonder if this is secretly what the men around me are thinking.

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 21/06/2017 17:36

Lol go right ahead NoLove!! It infuriates me that men go to massive lengths to distance themselves from males who commit violence and wreak havoc across the globe...yet think they too should be glorified because Thomas Edison happened to be a dude!! NAMALT obviously doesn't apply in those instances!!Hmm

I used to have a DM account and I would challenge all the sexism on there!! I used to throw out all the stats I had read here...like women do 70% of the world's work for 10% of the pay, and that women owned 1% of the world's property.

I got banned for apparently being reported so much for my stats that the mods had too much to do!

NoLoveofMine · 21/06/2017 17:43

It is quite something LastGirlOnTheLeft! Try to talk about male violence and it's "not all men, you're such an awful misandrist" (even if "some men" is stated these reactions are common) yet if some chap invents something they want to share in the credit and it proves "men" are all awe inspiring greats.

Similarly, it's often the same men who victim blame and go on about how women and girls have responsibility to avoid sexual assault and rape (and essentially say it's inevitable men will take advantage wherever possible) who complain feminists apparently think "all men are rapists" for discussing rape culture.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 21/06/2017 17:58

Yes, NoLove - they want it their own way all the time! Women and girls are to blame if we get raped walking home alone or getting drunk because what were we thinking???

But God forbid you then see men as Schrodinger's rapist!!!

I think men see themselves as something really special...each one wonderfully unique - different to all the others. And given a chance they too could create something as spectacular as the inventions of Edison or Bell. When really they are just bog standard, boring people with delusions of grandeur.😂

NoLoveofMine · 21/06/2017 18:06
Grin

But of course women are entirely incapable. Marie Curie, Ada Lovelace, Rosalind Franklin, Cecila Payne-Gaposchkin and countless others whose work is so key to so much despite being oppressed and in some cases having their work appropriated...but men did everything and all men (not not all men) deserve the credit.

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