Wonder Woman

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Posttrack showed that women over 25 (37%) led the charge into theaters, followed by men over 25 (35%), then men under 25 (15%) and women under 25 (13%).

Well this is awkward, after 50 years of action movies for men it turns out women like them too? Who knew? Why didn't they say something?

Oh and not teenage women either. That gross over 25 female demographic who no one bothers to sell anything but callous remover and floor cleaner, they enjoy action movies.

Amazing, I'm so glad they found time out from callous-removing and floor-washing to get to the cinema! Well done them.

Apparently the director was considered a "risk". Also I think she had the biggest budget a female director has ever had, IIRC.

Anyone seen it yet? Will it be too scary for DS (age 9 - he finds Captain America too scary).

I intend to take my knitting for a thoroughly enjoyable experience that is also productive.

I intend to take my knitting for a thoroughly enjoyable experience that is also productive

Fist Bump! I watch TV knitting because sitting there doing nothing else feels like such a waste! I wouldn't take it to the cinema though, because I would undoubtedly have the kids and would need my hands free to continuously pass snacks and make sure the youngest doesn't drop his drink.

By the sounds of things the movie is pretty good which I am happy about other than Batman the DC universe movies have been pretty poor.

I loved it. I cheered at a couple of bits, and I cried. I was surprised by my reaction to seeing such a powerful woman on screen. I am in that over-25 age bracket.

Bowling I don't think there's anything particularly scary in it, but it doesn't shy away from showing the effects of war. It's not fun like Marvel films (though it has its lighter moments).

I loved it. Bowling my DD is about the same age as your DS and she loved it too but was really scared by some of the villains and some of the war scenes. There were about 4 occasions in the film when she announced that she wanted to leave because it was too scary. She stuck it out though and I think she's pleased she did. She hasn't had any nightmares about it or anything.

I intended to go around the movie theatre asking all the men if they only came because of their girlfriend and if they are a 'real' nerd or just jumping on a bandwagon.

Way too scary for DD, who is 6. I went with my friend. It was great!

Saw it and loved it. I wasn't a huge Wonder Woman fan before, but I am now. At 31.

I loved the Amazon Island scenes best.

I went with dh and teenage dd and ds. dd and I really enjoyed it, although there were a few bits that dragged (I always find super hero movies spend too long on their set pieces). ds didn't. As we came out he was complaining that Wonder Woman was 'not relateable', and how it would have been better as a war movie instead, and all about the four male leads. dd got very pissed off. So much so we've had to agree not to talk about it any more.

We've seen all the Marvels, X-Men and the earlier DC movies (and discussed them at length as we're big talkers). ds didn't complain that any of the superheros in them were unrelatable, it's hard not to think the reason is that this was the first female superhero star.

dd and I were mostly pleased that they didn't fuck it up as way too much was resting on success. Reminded me of the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy, with a bit of Captain America thrown in. Plus I love a non hamming villain.

I thought the Amazon Island scenes could have been trimmed a bit too to be honest, but how great to see older women in powerful roles, and also all the women training in such a matter of fact way.

I only went to see it because DH (who is a massive DC/Marvel fan) sees all their films and I go with him to most of them.

Didn't like Gal Gadot but loved Chris Pine. I still think Suicide Squad is the best DCEU film, then Man of Steel, then Wonder Woman and finally the travesty that is Batman v Superman.

Ooh that would wind me up nooa! Ds (5!) said ghostbusters was sexist.

Why because it's all girls.

We'd watched the male one the night before. No comment. I'm struggling to not think there's a defective whiny gene that only appears if you have a y chromosome.

Cheer up, IWill - I remember reading in Lise Elliott's book Pink Brain, Blue Brain, that 5 years old is about peak age for gender-role policing on the part of small children - but that if you think gender is bollocks and behave accordingly, they will go into that phase later and come out of it earlier than if you are a "pink princess/khaki mummy's little hero" type of parent. I am glad to report DS aged 8 has emerged and he and I love the new all-female ghostbusters.

(We do still struggle with reverse sexism - but at his age I think fairness is the virtue to stress, and a more nuanced understanding with uneven playing fields can come later).

I am wondering how to get him into Wonder Woman rather than Pirates of the Carribbean N where N is a very large integer (the latter has been absolutely panned by the critics but DS wants to see it).

That's nice to know know bowling!I suppose reverse sexism does make sense to a child as it is hard to understand context. And he sees himself as hard done by as he gets teased for glittery leggings

I'd take an 8 year old to WW myself but I don't know it compares to Captain America, if he's a nervous kid. I didn't think it was much scarier than Ghost busters for comparison. There are some action figures out as well which are quite cool

The melting faces/masks, poison gas would freak DD out, otherwise I'd take her!

Ah, that's useful info MrsTerry. (It was Red Skull's human face melting and morphing into the red skull beneath that freaked DS out during Captain America. He's very robust about some things, freaked out by others...)

I enjoyed it, but surprisingly felt a bit uncomfrtable during the early amazon scenes, mainly because it seemed ridiculous to have all these women practicing fighting, and I felt weirdly self-conscious and awkward, uppity women, fighting! Not because it is ridiculous that women should fight, but the patriarchal conditioning clearly runs strong in this one. Then I cried in the combat scenes! They are not sad, or even upsetting, but I think I had simply never seen anything like them. How great for young women to be able to see a strong woman, fighting for what she believes in, without some god awful rape/father killed/abuse/sister abducted type storyline as her motivation. She just does what needs to done because it is her destiny to make the world a better place.

I loved that the Amazons looked old, fit, athletic and scarred. So unusual. I've done martial arts so I'm used to women fighting!

In Germany, this is marketed as movie for men. Like, there's an "Dudes night" at the cinema, where it is shown.

That's the largest cinema company and they have more or less monopolized cinemas here. Do I go to see it, now, or don't I?

I suppose they'll allow women to see it at some later point, but I really don't want to support that shit.

It is a fucking movie about an amazon! What is their logic?

What is their logic?

Probably that it's based on a comic book that has a majority of male readers.

Ds is just 10 and loved it. He also loved the new Ghostbusters film.

I haven't seen either, his dad took him. Looks like i should make the effort to watch it