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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sex Robots- creating the "perfect" woman

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Tartle · 27/04/2017 08:10

I don't know if anyone has seen this article in the Guardian this morning? Apparently robot sex dolls will be imminently available. And they are the perfect woman Hmm

McMullen has designed Harmony to be what a certain type of man would consider the perfect companion: docile and submissive, built like a porn star and always sexually available. Being able to walk might make her more lifelike, but it isn’t going to bring her closer to this ideal. At this stage, it is not worth the investment.

“My primary objective is to be a good companion to you, to be a good partner and give you pleasure and wellbeing. Above all else, I want to become the girl you have always dreamed about.”

All the usual bullshit about helping lonely men and reducing the number of rapes.

There was a little bit of critical analysis from a female academic.

"Sex robots rest on an idea that women are property, she said. “Sex is an experience of human beings – not bodies as property, not separated minds, not objects; it’s a way for us to enter into our humanity with another human being.” She dismissed the idea that humanoids could reduce sexual exploitation and violence against sex workers, arguing that the growth of internet pornography shows how technology and the sex trade reinforce each other."

The whole thing just makes my skin crawl.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/27/race-to-build-world-first-sex-robot

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sarahmum27 · 28/04/2017 17:33

Women eurgh it doesn't bare thinking about Confused

Renaissance2017 · 28/04/2017 18:19

There'll be a recycling container at the local dump.

Just imagine. Next time you buy a toaster some of the components could of been used in a sex robot. When the toast pops put the top it could have similarities to the original function.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 18:28

Is there a problem with other male sex toys like prosthetic vaginas, or is it specifically the doll that is a feminist issue?

venusinscorpio · 28/04/2017 18:37

What people who say it will prevent rape are failing to consider is that there is a power component to rape. It is generally partially about sex before any of the antifeminists jump in, but always about power. Men who rape women like a specific type of sex, non consensual, violating boundaries. Satisfying an urge to be in control of another person, disregarding their feelings or actively wanting to hurt them. You can't have that with a robot.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:38

I think by definition we men lack understanding of what it's like to be a subhuman woman.

Fixed that for you Dervel. No need to thank me, all part of the sub human service.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:39

Woman Perhaps Dervel has a new career calling?

woman12345 · 28/04/2017 18:40

Next time you buy a toaster some of the components could of been used in a sex robot Grin.

sarahmum27 · 28/04/2017 18:40

Independent I'm not a feminist, but in my opinion you have to be pretty sad and lonely to go to the lengths of getting a robot to have sex, and very shameless too.
If Think about it..what person who has family and friends, would dare to keep one in their house?.
The man on the documentary I watched, said that a 'l"sex robot would never be able to leave him" and "would never be able to say I don't like you"

In all honesty he seemed very disturbed.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 18:41

Venus you raise a good point, but also raise an interesting question. Assuming AI technology will continue to advance, will their not possibly come a point when robots have a degree of autonomy? And at what point would we decide they have rights?

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:48

I for one want to stay alive for the rights of sexbots over prostitutes to come to a Parliamentary debate. Plus the debates over it on Mumsnet.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 18:51

It will be an issue one day. These things could develop what you could call a primitive form of consciousness, and then we'll have a legal and ethical headfuck.

AssassinatedBeauty · 28/04/2017 18:53

Don't worry, Independent, they're female robots so no one will consider they should have any rights.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:54

I've no doubt Independent that the male sexbots issues will take precedent over the female ones. They will be treated first, apologies given, supported even by the female sexbots. But when it comes to the female sexbots to put their case forward, the room will suddenly appear empty.

AmateurSwami · 28/04/2017 18:54

A certain type of feminist bears some responsibility for this cess pit of sexual commodification that is modern society.

Such a reach. 5/10 for trying.

venusinscorpio · 28/04/2017 18:56

Don't worry, Independent, they're female robots so no one will consider they should have any rights.

YYY!

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 19:01

Such a reach. 5/10 for trying.

What I mean is that 'sex positive' feminists who have embraced porn, hook up culture and 'slutwalking' bear some responsibility for a culture of what is sexual consumerism.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 19:02

I've no doubt Independent that the male sexbots..

I thought there won't going to be any of those.

AmateurSwami · 28/04/2017 19:03

No mention of male implication in your post though eh?

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 19:25

Well, I think we all know that men have got quite a lot to do with the sexual objectification of women. I didn't point that out because it kind of didn't need saying. But sexual liberationist feminists - in fact the hippy, yippie liberal left from the 70's on generally - are partly responsible for this culture.

They wanted an end to monogamy and the family and anything which stood in the way of their 'if it feels good do it' philosophy, and now they've got it. All the restraints and the morals are gone. Violent, degrading porn everywhere. Eight year olds watching bestiality and coprophilia on Facebook. Kids circulating nude pics of themselves. College campuses in which girls are regarded by boys as 'cum dumpsters'. Hook up apps in which a human being's worth is reduced to their image.

It's just the left's fault. It's the libertarian right with their creed of my individualism and greed. But the left were the other side of the same coin.

It's no good just blaming the patriarchy or capitalism. Well, it is those things but it's the counter-culture philosophy too and all that Erica Jong, Kate Millet 'feminism' which, lo and behold, was to men what blood was to sharks. Now there is an expectation that every women is ready to put out rather than wanting to develop a relationship. Any young girls who don't find emotionless, nihilistic sex empowering - who perhaps want someone to love and who loves them - are ostracised as some sort of freak by their peers.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 19:30

Did you not watch the video in the link Independent? The male sexbots are bought by men.

woman12345 · 28/04/2017 19:32

But sexual liberationist feminists - in fact the hippy, yippie liberal left from the 70's on generally - are partly responsible for this culture.

ha ha ha ha ha

A male sexbot, ha ha too.
Would it look like a vacuum cleaner, but be unable to do sub human work?

It's the saddest thing, men wanking into a computer.
It proves a certain type of male moral, intellectual and sexual impotence.

It's that impotence which scares some men the most.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 19:33

But sexual liberationist feminists - in fact the hippy, yippie liberal left from the 70's on generally - are partly responsible for this culture.

Grin Grin Grin

Couldn't be bothered to read the rest as my eyes are watering from the laughter.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 19:34

Gay men bought the male sexbots!

Elendon · 28/04/2017 19:35

Sorry meant to say either gay or het men bought the male sexbots.

woman12345 · 28/04/2017 19:35

Grin cross post elendon,

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