Sex Robots- creating the "perfect" woman

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I don't know if anyone has seen this article in the Guardian this morning? Apparently robot sex dolls will be imminently available. And they are the perfect woman

McMullen has designed Harmony to be what a certain type of man would consider the perfect companion: docile and submissive, built like a porn star and always sexually available. Being able to walk might make her more lifelike, but it isn’t going to bring her closer to this ideal. At this stage, it is not worth the investment.

“My primary objective is to be a good companion to you, to be a good partner and give you pleasure and wellbeing. Above all else, I want to become the girl you have always dreamed about.”

All the usual bullshit about helping lonely men and reducing the number of rapes.

There was a little bit of critical analysis from a female academic.

"Sex robots rest on an idea that women are property, she said. “Sex is an experience of human beings – not bodies as property, not separated minds, not objects; it’s a way for us to enter into our humanity with another human being.” She dismissed the idea that humanoids could reduce sexual exploitation and violence against sex workers, arguing that the growth of internet pornography shows how technology and the sex trade reinforce each other."

The whole thing just makes my skin crawl.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/27/race-to-build-world-first-sex-robot

ChocChoc it was not my intention to suggest that everything pre-60's was wonderful for women and everything post-60's was bad. As you rightly argue, that would be a groundless generalisation. Just that we now have a highly sexualised consumer culture and aa global, deregulated sex industry which dwarfs anything to have previously existed in human history. Liberalism has lost its moral compass. The message of sexual liberation was that people should be liberated from moral restraints to indulge their sexual desires in whatever way they please. And now that's what we've got. And it's a mess.

Moreover, I'm not sure anyone - male or female - should feel that they should be able to have sex with 'whoever' they want to. We have all sorts of moral obligations that rightly limit our sexual choices.

Sex toys aren't marketed as the the perfect man, are they?

They don't want to let me anyway near the programming of them. I would code random 'stop' or 'I don't want to be touched' and if they carried on would be an electrical shock.

im not sure anyone - male or female - should feel that they should be able to have sex with 'whoever' they want to

Sex between consenting adults is broadly speaking generally OK though surely?

if they carried on would be an electrical shock
Why would you punish a machine, it's not conscious it doesn't experience anything, just as pointless as whipping the toaster when it burns the toast

@GavelRavel Kiddybots

We have all sorts of moral obligations that rightly limit our sexual choices
Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean

Sex between consenting adults is broadly speaking generally OK though surely?

It might be or it might not. A forty year old man having sex with a sixteen year old girl is legal but arguably not okay. Ditto someone having an affair behind their husband or wife's back.

Consent is of course the baseline requirement of a sexual relationship, but the moral implications of what is a highly complex, intimate act between two human beings extends way beyond that. Sex does not take place in a moral, social or political vacuum.

I agree that male sex dolls are unlikely, because women just don't require a visually stimulating male object
Are you saying women don't get turned on by good looking men with fit bodies?
Damn sure I do!

Are you saying women don't get turned on by good looking men with fit bodies?
Damn sure I do!

Well, there you go. Maybe one day women will have male sex dolls then.

if you believe porn to be inherently patriarchal The vast majority of it is at the moment, yes.

It is at the moment yes, but there is no reason why it will always be so.

Your average bloke with his flabby dad bod....man boobs, pot belly his self esteem is gonna take a real hit when he sees those handsome androids with the lean muscular Greek God physique and the handsome movie star face

Sex bots could be just as upsetting to men as they are to women, the idealized male body is just as unobtainable to the average man as is the idealized female body to the average woman

Give technology to men and they will find a way to use it to satisfy their sexual desires. Why are they not working on a robot that I can use to clean the house? Or give it a shopping list and expect it to come back from the shops with the right stuff? Why can they not find a way to work out why a baby is crying (different coloured lights for food, nappy, sleep)?

But, it is true, men's desire for sex has pushed many innovations forward and no doubt their desire for the 'perfect woman' will push forward technology in AI. This probably goes hand in hand with the artificial womb that is being worked on right now. Men will find a way to get on without real women in the future....assuming they don't blow us all up with nuclear weapons first.

Sex bots could be just as upsetting to men as they are to women, the idealized male body is just as unobtainable to the average man as is the idealized female body to the average woman

Well quite. Perhaps we have gender equal techno-capitalist objectification to look forward to.

But technology has been used to satisfy female desires MiddleAged. The market in sex toys is worth billions and women are embracing an internet based sexual culture.

Who knows what will happen, we haven't invented an accurate crystal ball yet, all this speculation will be way off the mark, predictions about the future always are, things pan out in ways we just can't imagine
I'm a techno optimist😆

I'm a techno optimist😆

Afraid I'm not. The internet will destroy jobs on a massive scale, give unprecedented power to corporations and turn pretty much all of human life into a form of marketable commodity or data currency.

So where did you get your crystal ball?

It's happening already.

There's no market for it. Just as there's no market for women picking up sex workers from the streets, or watching male lap dancers in a non ironic way. Women don't purchase sexual thrills in anything like the same way men do.

Sex has been for sale since the dawn of time. The latest tech gadget isn't suddenly going to change women's likelihood of being the consumers rather than the vendors of it.

The Full Monty and the Diet Coke ad have not changed anything.

Assert that something WILL happen and you are talking out of your hat...spouting rhetoric
Use might or could and you are being more rational

Women don't purchase sexual thrills in anything like the same way men do
They buy lots of vibrators....and a sex bot is just a glorified sex toy

If rape is about power not sex, then these won't prevent rape.
Might keep creepy, weird guys in their bedrooms and off the streets, though.

It's a toy the size of an adult man. Most women consider sex toys to be a personal item, and store them in their bedside drawer. I don't know why you're so keen on the idea that women are just dying to buy six foot sex toys but I can give you a cast iron guarantee that no woman of my acquaintance would buy one. And many of them do own vibrators.