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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are Genital Preferences Transphobic

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dementedcommuter · 31/03/2017 23:02

Are Genital Preferences Transphobic. I think Magdalene Burns response to Dennis J Riley warrants a stand alone post on here. What do you think? #theshining:)

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Oblomov17 · 07/04/2017 13:34

Riley is frightening!! She deals with him well.

TheChampagneGalop · 07/04/2017 14:39

She both makes calm arguments in that video and adds those parody moments like the Shining one. I thought it was funny (and scary) , I don't see why it should be removed from Youtube.

PoochSmooch · 08/04/2017 06:42

I agree that The Shining parody was unnecessary. Magdalen's strength is in her dead pan, common sense, laser sharp dissection and delivery, she doesn't need cheap tricks like that! Madness that it's been removed, though, considering what is allowed to stand.

I have never seen an explanation offered for why the vitriol for penis embargoes is only ever aimed at lesbians and not straight men, other than the blindingly flipping obvious one offered when you see that it's straight up homophobia and misogyny. Has anyone come across such a thing? Where are the videos exhorting straight men to stop being such penis phobes?

A gay friend said he'd once seen a video of a trans man bemoaning the fact that gay men just weren't sexually interested. He said gay men just laughed and said "Wtf? We don't do vag. NEXT". There's no army of SJWs taking up cudgels for trans men to be embraced into gay culture. Because the whole thing is sexist AF and it doesn't work that way. It stuns me that people are so resistant to seeing that. Lesbians are expected to be sexually accepting of women, trans women and trans men - because lesbianism doesn't really exist.

Nellooo · 08/04/2017 07:19

Agree Pooch.

I've discussed all of this hoo ha with gay DB and he said the same thing re: the trans vag.

I find the whole "you're a bigot if you won't accept a trans person in your dating pool" to be the height of entitlement - who would ever assume to be universally sexually attractive or desirable to all people?

FerdinandsRevenge · 08/04/2017 07:49

TBH I also thought the shining thing missed the mark, made it seem a bit cheap and cheesy but I do normally really like MB's videos. Usually the humour is pretty dead on and enjoy the random music choices

Railgunner1 · 08/04/2017 08:08

I have never seen an explanation offered for why the vitriol for penis embargoes is only ever aimed at lesbians and not straight men

Actually, it now goes for straight men now too. There was an article recently that said something like... Trans-'girlfriends' are better, because being born male, they have a better at understanding men's needs than modern women, who are rejecting femininity for feminism. Only straight men aren't buying into such gems very much Hmm

FerdinandsRevenge · 08/04/2017 08:13

If it's what I'm thinking if though Rail that website is for trans dating so not main stream. They also think surgically placed holes are better than vaginas as they're "tighter"

FerdinandsRevenge · 08/04/2017 08:15

The only mainstream legitimate articles regarding het men and tws I have seen are where "heterosexual" men are already in relationships with transwomen and the article says 'yes, he is really straight, don't be such a bigot' but at no time ever implies any other man should consider sticking their penis in a bloke

FerdinandsRevenge · 08/04/2017 08:16

So a celebrity man is dating a tw and it has made the news I mean

Railgunner1 · 08/04/2017 08:16

I didn't see the 'tighter' argument Grin and i don't know the website. Just FB gems

Railgunner1 · 08/04/2017 18:38

Hello...

Are Genital Preferences Transphobic
Prawnofthepatriarchy · 08/04/2017 18:47

"Tighter"? Only a man who knows nothing of the magnificent capabilities of female genitalia would dare compare a surgically created wound to the lush musculature of a real vagina. Pitiful.

CaoNiMartacus · 08/04/2017 21:22

Lol Rail. Presumably the wonder but not the woman!

Nellooo · 08/04/2017 21:26

Is that meme insinuating that Lynda Carter is a TW?! Hmm

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 08/04/2017 21:48

I assume the wonder is in the sense of "I wonder if she's still got her dick?" Grin

user1487175389 · 08/04/2017 21:52

Sexuality is not prejudice.

Mordred · 19/04/2017 10:57

"Only a man who knows nothing of the magnificent capabilities of female genitalia would dare compare a surgically created wound to the lush musculature of a real vagina."

Too bloody right! In spades. A trans vag could in no way compete with a lovely proper, tasty and juicy ladygarden.

WankingMonkey · 19/04/2017 12:50

Apparently a 'preference for genitals (as opposed to, whole sexed bodies Hmm ) makes one a vagina fetishist. Homosexuality does not exist. Its a fetish. or people being bigoted. or both.

No 'cock fetishist' accusations aimed at gay men though oddly enough.

LilacMarin19 · 27/04/2017 23:13

What's funny in a painful way is that Riley Dennis says that genital/trans preferences in dating are discriminatory/transphobic, while at the same time admitting they don't want to date men... Is that not also discriminatory/sexist?

Dickphobia or vagphobia is not the same as being transphobic. What about a man who says they would date a transwoman who had a neo-vagina, but not one who still had a penis and balls? Surely in that scenario it is the genitals and not the 'transness' that is the problem.

RogueBiscuit · 27/04/2017 23:40

There are a awful lot of Facebook groups for transwoman seeking ciswomen.They specifically state they're not sexually attracted to trans or crossdressers.

WankingMonkey · 28/04/2017 12:47

There are a awful lot of Facebook groups for transwoman seeking ciswomen.They specifically state they're not sexually attracted to trans or crossdressers.

Coz despite all the shouting and wailing, they know they are not the same as 'cis' women. They know being in a relationship with a transwoman is being in a relationship with a male, and they do not want that. So..its fine for them to say no to transwomen but females (especially lesbians) are bigoted for saying no to them. Its crazy.

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