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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

It's time to unleash the ultimate tool of patriarchy!

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thatstoast · 01/01/2017 18:26

Why can't it just say 'Family Organiser'?

It's time to unleash the ultimate tool of patriarchy!
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ShutTheFuckUpBarbara · 02/01/2017 16:16

DH buys our family organiser every year. It's right up his street, he's a colour-coding, spreadsheet-obsessed kind of guy.

The main USP for him is not what it's called, but how much it costs and how many columns there are. So we have had a few "mum" ones, chosen by him, and he is the one who uses it the most

saltydogandme · 02/01/2017 16:19

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BeyondTheStarryNight · 02/01/2017 16:23

I quite like the ones that come with stickers. As I'm a lazy organised mum!!

thatstoast · 02/01/2017 16:28

I treated myself to one with stickers a few years ago. It was very nice. I think for £2 you can't expect stickers or equality.

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ImprovingMyMH · 02/01/2017 16:37

I love my family planner which is made by Organised Mum, I hate the company name though! Also, MN.

RaskolnikovsGarret · 02/01/2017 16:39

I hate the mum ones too. I found it hard to get a neutral one. I cannot believe how old fashioned it all is.

VestalVirgin · 03/01/2017 15:47

As long as women still buy this shit, nothing will change.

Unleash the power of boycott.

(What IS this kind of thing, by the way? All families I know get by without having a special "family organiser")

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/01/2017 15:57

As long as women still buy this shit, nothing will change

Unleash the power of boycott

(What IS this kind of thing, by the way? All families I know get by without having a special "family organiser")

Agreed on all points.

And if you do actually need or want a "family organiser" there are 100s available which are non- gendered/ non sexist. Google really is your friend.

It seems perverse to buy this particular one and then start a thread complaining about how sexist it is.

Elendon · 03/01/2017 16:07

I cannot believe how old fashioned it all is. Spot on Rask

No one even needs a family organiser. I'm partial to a lovely calendar myself, so long as it's got pictures of beaches and sun the changing seasons, who doesn't love a Robin on a snow covered spade for December. But I have these pictures on my social media.

thatstoast · 03/01/2017 17:43

Ok, next year I won't buy one. I'll never know when anything is but it'll be worth it to see the sexist calendar industry crumble.

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/01/2017 18:02

There are literally 1000s of organisers and calendars to pick from which don't have the word "mum" on them.

No one, not even the "patriarchy" is forcing you to buy this one. If you like it that's just fine; if you don't buy another one. You could buy one which supports your favourite charity for example.

thatstoast · 03/01/2017 18:34

Nope, it's definitely the "patriarchy".

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KickAssAngel · 03/01/2017 18:50

I never once used a paper calendar/diary/planner in my life. But, as I get older, I find that Google Calendar is very helpful.

QueenOfTheSardines · 03/01/2017 19:13

I've just done the annual set-up of the new year A5 diary.

I do take the organisation "wifework" on. DH is very good and uncomplaining at following instructions so it works for us but TBH it is a lot of mental overhead that he doesn't have.

QueenOfTheSardines · 03/01/2017 19:14

It has a very girly floral pattern on it, now I come to think of it Grin

Ah well.

MiaowTheCat · 03/01/2017 19:20

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/01/2017 20:11

Nope, it's definitely the "patriarchy"

Not much chance of smashing it then if you are wiling to collude with it when an alternative calendar was readily available.

Sorry , but I find it perverse to buy this calendar and then start a thread complaining about how awful it is.

KickAssAngel · 03/01/2017 20:40

She bought it as it's the cheapest one. It's the cheapest one because shops make/sell lots of these for mums. They're made for mums because penis-wearers don't have to do the thinking, planning, organizing of the family. Penis wearers are only able to be competent at work, where they get paid more for being penis-wearers.

Does that make it easier to understand?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/01/2017 21:03

Nope.

There are plenty of organisers available, if one is needed, which don't have the word "mum" on them.

So far as individual households are concerned it's up to the individual penis bearers and individual vagina owners to organise responsibility for how their households are run. There is no law that says "penis-wearers don't have to do the thinking, planning, organizing of the family" or that bans women from speaking up or discussing it with their partners.

thatstoast · 03/01/2017 21:25

I think I might start my own range. Some working titles:

Non gender specific calendar for control freaks.

Awesome calendar of awesomeness for awesome people with awesome penises

Mums who can't be bothered to extensively research calendars calendar

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KickAssAngel · 04/01/2017 02:44

Lass - there are way too many studies which show that your thinking, although logical, bears no relation to real life. If it weren't true about the number of women who do the organizing, then those wouldn't be the dominant style of ones sold. Just this thread shows how it IS 'the norm' for mum to be in charge of the thinking for this stuff. The only way to avoid it is to specifically search for non-mum ones, rather than those being the norm.

Read Wifework sometime.

Or anything by Betty Friedan.

Which came first? The patriarchy, or the marketing which perpetuates it?

SenecaFalls · 04/01/2017 03:09

A bit of a detour, but the part that perplexes me is that so many gen-Xers and millennials use these paper organizers. I'm all digital, and have been for years, and I am pretty old. In fairness though, the only family I have to organize these days is DH and me, and he can be trusted to organize himself for the most part, in spite of owning a penis.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 04/01/2017 04:54

KickAss have you tried googling "family organiser"? I did.

It is nonsense to say this style is the only style available. The ones marked in this way are not even the dominant style. This particular one was way down the search results.

Feminisim seems to be failing miserably by your argument. Don't couples talk to each other? Arrange their lives mutually? Woman can't even choose to buy a non -sexist calendar because hey, the patriarchy won't allow it.

BeyondTheStarryNight · 04/01/2017 07:32

Seneca - we use both, a family iCloud calendar and a paper one in the kitchen. Still manage to miss things though as we are both crap

(So crap that this years hasn't been bought yet, will have to do it today)

KonMarieMyCrapAway · 04/01/2017 07:41

I read you as being flippant, flumpy. Like many of the posters before you! Obviously a bit too dry for the context!

(In our family we've adopted the use of 'sarcasm marks' when we need our meaning to be crystal clear. ~ Because we're so cool. ~)