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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone else getting the popcorn ready re Danielle Muscato's twitter rant at Trump?

89 replies

AskBasil · 05/12/2016 00:00

It went viral and Danielle is on TV tomorrow because of it .

www.salon.com/2016/12/04/trump-continues-to-whine-about-snl-portrayal-amazing-twitter-rant-ensues/

This is what Danielle looks like:

www.daniellemuscato.com/

I predict puzzlement.

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girlwiththeflaxenhair · 05/12/2016 20:58

I think kateaidiesearings has it right...

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 05/12/2016 21:25

What a plonker

amispartacus · 05/12/2016 21:50

I'd like to know why they think they are a woman?

If you think I'm not a woman, or less of a woman, because I don't fit your mental picture of what a woman should look like, or what body parts a woman should or shouldn't have

Has DM said why they are a woman? I wonder if DM suffers from appearing to all extent like a white male?

AskBasil · 05/12/2016 21:59

Danielle thinks Danielle is a woman, because a woman is whatever a man says one is.

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 05/12/2016 22:38

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AskBasil · 05/12/2016 22:45

I am wondering how tolerant my brothers are.

Would they go around pretending they believed themselves to be a woman just to see how far they could push it and how many people they could set up for ridicule?

I suspect they aren't up for that. Grin

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Datun · 05/12/2016 23:47

So if he doesn't look like a woman or act like a woman and retains his penis and anyone who looks at him perceives him as a man and treats him accordingly, exactly how is he a transwoman? what do his feelz actually do for him ?

OlennasWimple · 06/12/2016 01:30

Does anyone know which news outlets will be featuring DM tomorrow?

DeviTheGaelet · 06/12/2016 07:29

olenna if you search for Danielle on Facebook, Danielle has listed all appearances. Also provided contact details for the media and Danielle is available for debates.

ChocChocPorridge · 06/12/2016 08:03

DM says she hasn't 'transitioned' because she can't afford it. What does that even mean

I think he means he doesn't want a 30% pay cut datun :)

Although, from my understanding, he's unemployed and lives with his parents, so perhaps there's no pay to cut.

ChocChocPorridge · 06/12/2016 08:05

DM says she hasn't 'transitioned' because she can't afford it. What does that even mean

I think she meanss he doesn't want a 30% pay cut datun smile

Although, from my understanding, she's unemployed and lives with her parents, so perhaps there's no pay to cut.

ChocChocPorridge · 06/12/2016 08:05

There - mumsnetified the pronouns.. we'll see which one gets deleted for misgendering shall we...

TheHiphopopotamus · 06/12/2016 08:14

It doesn't surprise me. Weren't Salon the ones who published the article with the peadophile who tried to defend himself? I notice there's no photo of 'Danielle' either.

His/her tweets weren't that amazing either, nothing that thousand other people aren't tweeting hourly anyway.

WouldHave · 06/12/2016 08:18

I wonder if pp on here would be so critical of the tweets if Danielle had been born a woman?

TheHiphopopotamus · 06/12/2016 08:25

If Danielle had been born a woman, nobody would give a shit about those tweets and people wouldn't be writing articles them saying she 'destroyed' Trump.

LineyReborn · 06/12/2016 08:25

Why are you wondering that?

Loads of women write shit tweets. Loads of men write shit tweets. Some of them are given undue prominence for reasons unconnected with writing talent.

amispartacus · 06/12/2016 09:24

Although, from my understanding, she's unemployed and lives with her parents, so perhaps there's no pay to cut

Probably facing a lot of prejudice because they don't present as a transwoman in interviews?

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 06/12/2016 09:28

well the message is really a male's brain is far superior to a females so it takes a man who feels he is a women but isn't really thankfully for him he still has his male brain so is able to destroy Trump

he couldn't possibly if he had a female brain even though he feels he is a woman he knows his has a male brain and because of this he is automatically superior to women who have women's brains and that allows him to define what it means to be a woman

KateAdiesEarrings · 06/12/2016 09:31

I'm one of those smug people who is critical of everyone who thinks ranting on Twitter constitutes activism or debate Wink even though I probably fall into that trap sometimes too
Tweets to serious articles on politics are acceptable to me
HTH

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 06/12/2016 09:57

Ami, does that make Danielle a trans- transwoman?

CoteDAzur · 06/12/2016 09:57

"if Danielle had been born a woman?"

If Danielle had been born a woman, it would be a first in the history of the world. It would be a miracle.

Nobody is actually born a woman. People are born female or male. Accordingly, they are born girls or boys.

Woman = Adult human female and Man = Adult human male, just like Cow = Adult female cattle and Bull = Adult male cattle. Nothing more and nothing less.

Armed with a dictionary, it is easy to cut through the transactivist bullshit.

WouldHave · 06/12/2016 09:59

Gawd, pedantic much? OK, if Danielle were genetically female, would people be as critical of her tweets?

CoteDAzur · 06/12/2016 10:10

Again, "genetically female"is redundant because there is no other way to be female.

This is not pedantry m. The goal is not petty correction of your English language skills but to point out the error of transactivist "logic".

When you understand that Female = Of the sex that can bear young or make eggs, and Woman = Adult human female as is clear in any dictionary it is clear as day that Danielle is not a woman. Neither are any of the other males who mimic female appearance through makeup, surgery, heels etc.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 06/12/2016 10:35

But Danielle was not born female so how can we answer that question

Lets say I had tweeted exactly what Danielle had tweeted it would be correct to say that EnthusiasmDisturbed a woman from blah blah blah destroyed Trump with her tweets

Danielle is not a woman will never be a women it is impossible for Danielle to be a women so Danielle's tweets should not be passed of as tweets from a women - its a lie its an untruth

But why are Danielle's tweets being chosen out of millions of tweets by real woman Hmm well it gets more media attention more hits

Xenophile · 06/12/2016 12:19

Ok, for the sake of the thought experiment.

Had Danielle been born female, with the same fuckability level as they have with this body, then the chances are that their previous activism would have left her without a voice due to being trolled because ugly women should shut up and not have opinions. Therefore they wouldn't have anything like the reach or platform they enjoy now. Which would mean that the chances of the Twitter rant being featured in online magazines or discussed here would be pretty much zero.

Even if they were an outlier woman and everything was equal then this Twitter rant would almost certainly have been ignored anyway because there are better ones written by men.

I have seen better threads written by others who don't have the reach but do have the erudition to pull it off better.

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