Ched Evans wins appeal

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Sorry I can't link but it's on the BBC site.

'Not to judge morals' - unbelievable when this retrial is based on past sexual partners' statements! He has the morals of an alley cat.

I'm worried now. That poor girl.

Well my friend reckons some man broke down her front door and burgled her.

But I went round there the other day and she opened the door, let me in and even made me a cup of tea.

If that's how she behaves then I think she's lying about being burgled.

Fuck's teeth. What is going on here?!

That's the logic the appeal judges must have used when quashing his conviction. It's disgusting.

I thought there would be something new. Emails or texts indicating that either the victim or another witness was lying, or directly contradicting the prosecution evidence from first time around. But there's nothing. She's been put through this purely because those judges think that consenting on one occasion has a bearing on whether you consented on a different occasion.

It's just wrong.

Its not just obtuse is it ? Its way beyond that.

I wonder how the appeal judges will have written the judgement. It is supposed to published once the retrial has completed no matter what the verdict is.

It's a damming indictment of our justice system and how it treats rape victims.

If any women were in doubt about whether our justice system is institutionally misogynist and rotten to the core, this should clarify things for them.

Things like this keep reporting rates low. Because women aren't stupid. We know how badly our justice system treats victims. We know how tiny the chances of getting justice are (and the price we'll have to pay to have any chance of it).

Is it any wonder women vote with their feet and don't report?

And I say that as someone who got a guilty verdict. Despite the verdict, I still don't know whether it was worth the personal cost to me. When people ask whether I'm glad I reported and testified my answer is usually 'I don't know'.

I bet CE's victim wishes that she'd just gone home, cried, and kept quiet. And who could blame her... her life would be infinitely better right now if she had.

I hope she knows how many women do support her, and that the online trolls are not the whole story.

Agree with woman

Fucking travesty

I have deleted about 10 posts

I dont have words any more

I bet CE's victim wishes that she'd just gone home, cried, and kept quiet. And who could blame her... her life would be infinitely better right now if she had.

Ironically, if she hadnt been so drunk that she left her handbag in the kebab shop, she probably would have just gone home and kept quiet, thinking that if she had had sex the night before, well that's just what blokes do when your really drunk isnt it?

The thing thats particularly boiling my piss about this is whole thing is being portrayed as a 'drunken one night stand' gone wrong or something. That is could happen to any man who has sex with any woman who has had a drink and that poor 'normal blokes' are being ruined by manipulative women.

No. This will not happen to you if you ensure that you don't go letting yourself, uninvited, into dark hotel rooms at 4am and putting your dick into whoever is behind the door without ensuring first that they are ok with it.

I think he is going to get found not guilty

I hope she knows how many women do support her, and that the online trolls are not the whole story.

Me too.

So do i isita

I am not looking forward to getting up tomorrow morning, i am not sure that its going to be a good day

Not a good day for our justice system and women i mean

I think our justice system has already dammed itself by clearing this rapist on the basis of such a load of shite.

Whether the jury behave similarly remains to be seen.

Why the hell didn't the prosecution pursue the evidence of Clatom M? Especially about her being a sick girl in a room, when he knew CE was there with her, in the dark, penetrating her / touching her sexually?

What the fuck justice is this from the CPS?

Clayton

I don't know. He is a key witness, it's incomprehensible that his evidence wouldn't be considered essential for a fair trial.

Does anyone actually know why CM wasn't called?

Very true woman

I am just sad

Good spot of the jury though to ask to see CM's statement to the police.

But why was it denied to them?

This is like justice from some tinpot dictatorship with an extra helping of freemasonry.

I don't get either. CM saying that to the receptionist pretty much proves that she was not any of the things Evans said she was (ie. Taking the lead etc). Why didn't the receptionist say it this time round?

Surely if the defence are allowed to bring in people who weren't even there to testify that they 'think she is lying' then the the words of the only other person in the room are allowed to be heard in the court?

Usually, the rule is that if a statement is to be used as evidence, the barristers need to be allowed to cross examine the witness on its contents (unless it's very non-contentious and they both agree it - highly unlikely in this instance).

Given that the witness wasn't cross examined, the statement will have probably been inadmissible, so the jury couldn't have been allowed to see it.

The thing that's weird is why CM wasn't called by either side. I can see why the defence didn't call him, but not why the prosecution didn't. His account is pretty essential for a fair trial.

It must be to do with his acquittal the first time.