Sci-fi Rey from Star Wars, and Katniss Everdene. <poss spoiler alert re Star Wars>

[Pannn]

I appreciate this may not get much traction in FWR, but having seen the latest Star Wars film, I'm speculating on the poss thread between Rey and Katniss from Hunger Games. And I'm doubtful if Chat may come up with responses.
Sooo..I'm suggesting that Rey could not become a Jedi warrior, in the Star Wars narrative unless Katniss led the way in terms of female hero in sci-fi? Allegedly Lucas had 12 films scripted back in the 70s BUT..I'm doubtful if he foresaw then the social change leading to Rey being a Jedi (though she doesn't know this yet - hence the next narrative for at least 3 films).
So am I being fanciful in thinking Rey is a legacy of Katniss, and if she is, what is the next step for her?
I also ask as dd is a fan of Katniss but hates sci-fi though for media studies she is being asked to have a sci-fi focus for GCSE Media.

I don't see any contradiction between liking love triangles or love interests and feminism!

Pannn, what does media mean in this context? Is it purely film and tv? Or does it include cartoons/graphic novels, books, etc?

Are there set works, or does she just need to pick her own choices to write about?

When the tutor says "sci fi", does that mean speculative fiction as a whole which includes many groundbreaking works & is essentially about asking the question "if we changed this one thing, what else would change?" (unsurprisingly, feminist works aplenty here), or do they really mean just space opera, rayguns & spaceships?

Oops, massive crosspost there - interrupted by potty training emergency.

I'm not explaining myself well. It's because I'm hopping between threads at the moment so I'm rushing my answers.

I just feel that there are a lot of books out there aimed at teenage girls that seem to consist of a strong young woman who discovers something special about herself (she's half-goddess or demon or unicorn) and her whole world changes but, luckily, there's some brooding bloke (usually with a surname for a first name) waiting to help her. Then she's all conflicted about her feelings.

And I feel torn about Hunger Games. How much of Katniss is driven by Pete and Gale and how much by Prim and her Mother? Is it just another teenage girl typical trilogy? I don't know. I don't know where it sits in the feminist side of things. I'm crap at explaining how it pulls me in two directions.

Who has set sci fi? Is it the exam board? If so, should be a definition somewhere..

In the books, P & G are ciphers for the parts of her personality, IMO. I think she makes a head not a heart choice in the end, unlike every other romantic triangle.

Battlestar Galactica (reboot) doesn't just have Starbuck, who is brilliant, but loads of strong female characters who are just there doing their job. On the other hand, it is spaceships and robots. Loads of other things as well, brilliant things, but your daughter might not get past the spaceships.

I wonder if the prequel Caprica would be of interest? It was never finished so bad luck if your daughter gets really into it, but as far as I can remember it's more about relationships, virtual reality, religion - and the rise of the Cylons of course. And there are some teenage characters.

I don't know much about it but have heard there's another Star Wars film bring made, out of sequence, called Rogue One, with a female pilot at the lead role. I think its meant to plug a gap between previous films.

I grew up watching Gladiators (and desperately wanted to be Jet), Xena and Buffy so when I was a teen and reading The Hunger Games, I can safely say it wasn't the love triangle that held my interest.

Sarah Connor is a good female lead.

Have left my mobile no. with school to pass onto the teacher, and what it's about. Def get a definition of what they mean and confirming that it means all media.

'The Moon is a harsh Mistress' has strong women in lead roles.

Had a discussion with the teacher!
It includes all sub-genres of sci-fi except the comedy ones, so no to the very funny Galaxy Quest, with Alan Rickman and Sigourney Weaver. Booo!

So it's suggested they watch one from a variety subs eg space travel (Gravity, Interstellar?), action adventure, fantasy, classic (Star Wars/Trek), dystopean ( Hunger Games), disaster science (The Day After Tomorrow), human/family based (eg ET, Wall-E) and stuff like Blade Runner and the C4 series Humans.
The point is to compare and contrast various elements such as structure, characterisation, themes etc so watching only one subset would not be enough.
The examine board inform the schools of the exam question types two weeks prior to exam, so they have that time to revise over what they have seen. And it's only tv/film for this - they have covered other media in other subjects.

A lot to go at then!

That's a real shame about the no graphic novels thing, because imo, the greatest cannon of ass kicking women is in graphic novels.

Yes, there are problems with some of the dodgy costumes, but the women in say, the Marvel universe are the equal of, if not better than the men in general, and the strongest rated mutant is female.

Does it have to be recent?

I could have a bit of a ponder and get back to you with some ideas? Maybe a look at the metamorphosis of the companions in Dr Who?

no not recent, no comics or games.. just tv/film 'set in the future'...except Galaxy Quest. Did I mention that?

Galaxy Quest is ace. DS2's favourite expression for ages was "Oh... that's not right", and he has adopted a gaming alias that references Guy. But I suppose as a parody it shouldn't qualify.

yes Tool Time Guy getting his shirt off at every opportunity. And Ms Weaver in a push up bra and low zip top, must have been constantly thinking "WTF happened to Ripley??"

Is she wanting to look at female lead roles in particular? Would Scully in the x-files and Trinity in the Matrix be of interest, not sole leads but not far off.

And the X-Men where Jean Grey goes all powerful is pretty good.

My apologies Pan, I was just trying to help.

Wish your DD luck from me anyway.

I love jean and storm rouge oo theres black widow from the avengers she kicks arse

oh no need for apols PV - I wasn't being distinct as I didn't know the exact demands of project.
Two - no not necessarily female lead roles, but I know this would pique her interest such as it is.

Can I crave your collective patience with a specific request please?
A film as a starter to get behind her prejudice re sci-fi. Something with a good female lead/significant character, not too much 'science', a fairly easy to follow plot, good v evil, a bit of love interest poss., and some humour. She is a tough nut to crack, argumentative, stubborn (no idea where she gets that from..) and doesn't have much time. I'll buy it off Amazon and sit with her through it, with a note pad!
Star Wars 4 fits the bill, I think, but any other that fits the bill please? I will dedicate her Media GCSE to the FWR.

Serenity - Firefly spin off. Good vs evil, major female characters, humour, love interest.

Easy to follow plot - not so much as it's set after the series. But it is a standalone and, y'know, Whedon.

It is awful and noticed by my dd, she has three dbs, that there's not usually a female lead in action movies. She loves Scarlett witch and Rey, she's nine. She often complains that no Lego sets lead with a female either.