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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminist Pub XX - may the summer rains wash the patriarchy down the plughole

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NoTechnologicalBreakdown · 07/08/2015 08:17

Ooh ooh! Do I get to start it?

Wine and cake all round. And a celebratory burst on the patriarchy-blasting cannon!

Old pub here

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NeverEverAnythingEver · 15/09/2015 11:39

INicked Flowers for your mum.

On a separate note:

MarioMaker! Tell me about it! All our gaming devices are hopelessly out of date and I'm contemplating a New Toy and MarioMaker looks really attractive.

INickedAName · 15/09/2015 13:38

MarioMaker is brilliant. To be honest, we only got the wii u for the Mario Titles,

You make your own levels, there's a good tutorial to give you the basics, but it's not difficult. You start with the green pipes, fire flowers etc available and then the more you play, newer themed items become accessible like boo house stuff, which at first I wasn't keen about, but it stops you being overwhelmed with a load of stuff at once, you can create levels in 8bit style, or the newer 3d style. Then you can upload them for players around the world to play.
You can also play levels that other users have uploaded, they range from simple, to very complex, there's some talented designs. I like to play created levels, wheras dd likes to create them. You basically have a Mario game that never ends.
You can get the wii u bundled with the limited edition version of Mario maker which includes the Mario maker amiibo (they are a collectable Nintendo figure that when placed on the gamepad, unlock stuff like costumes,weapons,extra lives etc in various games, a bit lit Skylanders but cooler in my opinion)
Dd traded her old psp in so we only paid £15 for the limited edition game (would have been £0 if they had the normal edition). If you do pick up a wii u, I'd recommend the latest Mario kart too, any Mario game really, Splatoon is lots of fun too.
Apologies for bad grammar, I got excited talking about Mario :)

ISaySteadyOn · 15/09/2015 18:11

good excuse to get back in the pub. seen , INickedAName?

NeverEverAnythingEver · 15/09/2015 20:59

Thank you INicked!

I'll ask DC for a link to a mad person who dresses up as Mario and throws bananas on the road while tearing round corners in a car.

INickedAName · 15/09/2015 23:55

Thank you steady. I was suprised that they resigned 1-1 last, I always assumed they'd be designed in order Blush

The Life museum in Newcastle has a GameOn exhibition, lots of fun, all the older consoles are set up for people to play, with lots of info on history, sales, game design etc, it was very nostalgic playing on the Commodore. Felt old though. Dd couldn't believe you used to load games from a cassette!

It's a great day out if you're near Newcastle. Think the game exhibit is on til mid October, but there's lots to do in the rest of the museum (we spent the whole day on the consoles though :) )

NeverEverAnythingEver · 16/09/2015 16:01

Inicked

YouAreTheOmnishambles · 16/09/2015 18:35

Hello all, I'm new in these parts but I've been lurking for a while and I really like what you've done with the place Grin I've posted on other parts of the site, but had to NC after the hacking. Anyhoo, I hope it's OK if I launch my career here with a MASSIVE feminist-flavoured rant? I thought it might belong in the pub as I'm a newbie so not 100% sure I should dive in with starting a thread.

I live in France and have a joint account with my husband with an international bank here. I kept my own name on marriage - let's say we are known as Jane Smith and John Jones. The bank account was opened in the names of M. John Jones and Mme Jane Smith (don't start me on the lack of availability of a "Ms" style option here - a separate rant for another time). I ran out of cheques and ordered us two new chequebooks, which I need quite regularly as they are still very reliant on cheques here (yet another rant for yet another time, but I digress).

When I went to use the new cheques today, I was horrified to see that the new cheques are in the name "M. ou Mme John Jones", and when I went to check the account, they have changed it to that on there too!! WTAF??? Previous chequebook is for M John Jones ou Mme Jane Smith, so what on earth has happened here?

It would have been bad enough if they'd just arbitrarily decided that my name should be Jane Jones, but they have ENTIRELY fucking erased me from existence, and I have no idea when or why this happened! It's like I've been teleported back to the 1920s, and I am INCANDESCENT.

I phoned the bank and put a rocket up them and I am promised a phone call from my account manager this week to explain, so I await with interest their explanation. You'd think in 2015 bank systems could cope with married couples being called different things without it being an issue, but apparently not. My best guess is some sort of background system change has happened and when they've done their data migration, the M option overrides Mme if the names differ. In which case I call SEXIST BOLLOCKS.

Grrrrrrrr! Feel better for getting that off my chest.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 16/09/2015 18:39

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YouAreTheOmnishambles · 16/09/2015 19:06

thank you!

I am trying to decide if it's bad enough that I want to change banks over it...it would be a complete ballache to do, but I do feel very strongly about it. The bloody NERVE of it!!

YonicScrewdriver · 16/09/2015 19:18

Welcome!

HoVis2001 · 16/09/2015 19:40

Welcome, OmniShambles (it sounds like your bank are currently vying for your name!)

When DH and I married I added him to the account I have had quite literally since I was born. They then stopped sending me bank statements and started sending them to him (addressed only to him) instead. When I complained they started sending out two statements a month - one just to him, and one addressed to both of us. Envy

SenecaFalls · 16/09/2015 19:47

I would definitely change banks if they don't agree to fix it. Keep us posted on what happens.

And welcome!

ChunkyPickle · 16/09/2015 19:51

My bank fixed it and gave me 50 quid for annoying me - and that was just that they started sending bank statements/other communications only to DP, and demoted me to second place when I added him to my account.. (not an alphabetical thing)..

Try and at least get something out of them for the hassle of it all.

YouAreTheOmnishambles · 16/09/2015 20:13

Thank you for the welcome, I am pleased I've finally taken the plunge and joined in Smile

Hovis and chunkypickle I'm shocked on your behalf too - how bloody often does this sort of shit happen?!

The helpdesk person initially said to me that it was fine to go ahead and use the chequebook despite it not having my name on it in any form. I replied that I was amazed that she was suggesting that I committed fraud and she went very quiet then put me on hold to go and ask for advice.

I'm still SO cross!

INickedAName · 16/09/2015 20:48

Thank you for the vid neverever. Dd loved it too. I remember by brother and I squeezing into those little tykes car things once and racing each other up the street, pretending to chuck red shells and stuff. My brother is quite large and got stuck in the car, my Mam had to cut him out, while muttering "grow the fuck up, the pair of you"

Welcome Omnishambles. I'd be pissed off with the bank too.

Dds teacher asked me for a word this afternoon. As part of her homework dd had to research the decade 1915-1925 and she chose to write about the Suffragettes and women getting the vote, I didn't prompt her, she knew women got the vote after ww1 and that it was during that time period. She's been really praised for it as it everyone else used info from the first google search result, her teacher said it's clear it's something she's passionate about and her she conveyed her disappointment to how women were viewed back then in a very adult way. :)

Dd just told me that tanks in ww1 were gendered, with the males having canons and females having guns. I didn't know that.

Hovis2001 · 16/09/2015 20:56

Can I ask the Pub's opinion on something? I've not been watching Game of Thrones for ages but was interested in how they adapted Cersei's "walk of shame" so googled it. I'm a bit Hmm at the fact that they used a 27-year old body double. A body double at all, fair enough, but a 27-year old to represent the naked body of a woman who is in her late 30s or early 40s, after multiple children? Would it have killed them to have a naked body of a woman that wasn't 100% youthful, flat, and perfect?

Hovis2001 · 16/09/2015 20:58

INicked

I didn't know that about tanks. That's kind of a cool fact to know. I always find the gendering of objects (especially in a military context) a bit of a mind-bender. The 'she' of a ship or boat...

ChunkyPickle · 16/09/2015 21:03

Well, and I hesitate to say this, but I noticed that her boobs were different sizes, and actually liked that they didn't go for someone with an absolutely perfect body because of that - but you're right, they could have gone with a more appropriate body double.

I thought they lingered a lot too (a long scene really - with no reason other than to look at her), and some of the things said were horrible, and just for shock value - but then, this is why I'm probably not going to bother watching it any more - it's just all got too much.

Banks-wise - we expect so much more security around cheques than there is - I lived in Canada for a bit, and they weren't crossed as standard (I was looked at like I was mad for asking about it) - and you just went to some random place to get them printed - you didn't get them issued by the bank (well, I did, but I had to ask and they printed some for me as a favour!)

Was very, very weird.. I suppose much closer to their original promisary (sp?) notes than the formal things they are in Europe.

YonicScrewdriver · 16/09/2015 23:34

can i say a cautious 'woo' to six degrees of separation for having one female, one male scientist per team? male host and male comedic captains. natch, but we can't let feminism Go Too Far...

YonicScrewdriver · 16/09/2015 23:49

although brian cox did talk over the female physicist giving a perfectly good explanation of non Newtonian fluids...

NeverEverAnythingEver · 17/09/2015 16:35

I haven't seen any panel shows for a while. They are mostly middle-aged middle-class men sitting around going haw-haw-haw-aren't-we-clever, aren't they?

NeverEverAnythingEver · 17/09/2015 16:36
kickassangel · 17/09/2015 20:45

tbf, Yonic, Brian Cox may well speak over anyone, not just women, as he kind of loves the sound of his own voice.

YonicScrewdriver · 17/09/2015 20:50

You may be right, just he only did it to a woman in the first episode IIRC will watch again.

Hovis2001 · 17/09/2015 20:51

Chunky

Interesting point! I guess it was just that in the book I was especially struck by a line where Cersei hears a boy saying "she looks just like my Mum", referring specifically to her stretchmarks from having had 3 children, and I think part of the humiliation for her as described in the book was the image of the ever-youthful queen replaced with the reality of her 'flawed' body (which I think was a quite interesting commentary on the pressures of having to 'appear' a certain way, which is a relevant theme to women IRL). To me it would have been a step in the right direction for television to visually acknowledge that women's bodies do change throughout life etc. But such a conscious step may be too much to expect from Game of Thrones, which as you say has a host of other problems...