I can't shake the annoyance at this comment

[TooOldForGlitter]

I've been toying with starting a thread since I heard this comment on Thursday and I keep stopping myself because it seems so very trivial. Here we are on Saturday and it's still bothering me so maybe I need to write it down and see if that helps!

I took a 'phonecall at work on Thursday, the woman was reporting that some of the street lights near her unit were out. She said she had reported it last week and nothing had been done, she said it needed sorting asap because "it isn't right to expect young ladies to walk to the car park in the dark".

It really pissed me off. The use of young ladies, the implication that these young ladies were at risk, nobody else you understand, just the young ladies. I'm being ridiculous aren't I?

It's a young women's only route?

Had I only known such places existed!

Am also intrigued as to what a frauen arm button is!

Ebear is it like madame / madamouselle (sp again sorry) where you get this whole other awfulness around when does it switch / do you look young & it's still on the person judging you on your appearance sort of thing and is a whole other awful sexist minefield.

It is an industrial estate. The lights are out near the unit this woman works in. She was referring to the fact that people have to walk from unit, across road, and then into lit car park. I walk to and from the train station the same way as there is a cut through IYSWIM. I don't feel particularly vulnerable but them I'm not young and don't think of myself as a laydee so perhaps these imaginary industrial estate rapists won't go after me....

I also resent the snippy remarks that I'm somehow obsessing or over thinking. I didn't at any point say, oh I've thought of nothing else for two whole days and its keeping me up at night. I find it quite easy to carry on with my normal life and have an annoyance buzzing around my head at the same time.

Bloody stupid autocorrect and me not checking. Sorry. Frauen Alarm. Big Red button on wall. I presume help would still come if a man called for help though.

After all the intrigue I wish it were more thrilling.

lol ernest

Pleased to hear that in Germany they have giant buttons on random walls to remind women that they are prey. The UK could learn something there, I have been out a few times recently and hardly seen any posters to remind me that I need to be terrified at all times

FGS.

Although I was glad to note while trying on a coat in a clothes shop recently that they had a poster up inside the fitting room door to remind me that I am in permanent danger, just in case it had slipped my mind while shopping....

Why can't they just call it a help point or something that has nothing to do with gender, but more to do with the actual service it provides?

It is one of the more bizarre things I've heard! Going to google.

alarm

What do blokes do if they have a Notfall? (Emergency.) Say a car goes up in flames, or someone collapses with a heart attack?

Wait for a woman to come and press the button?

What would be brilliant would be if the button had been installed at a height that is reachable for the average man but too high up for the average woman

shelves of patriarchy style

aka the handrail thingys on part of my commute

Maybe press the button and use one of those comedy falsetto voices, in the style of a German Monty Python?

Have only read the first page. I agree with you. The number of posters who believe young women are the most at risk of shows how dominant the women as prey belief is. Nothing wrong with overthinking; if we took everything as it is nothing would ever change.

Yep, because it's perfectly safe for a guy to walk alone at night.

Do you read the threads at all before commenting? It might make you look less ridiculous if you did. Several people have commented that this was a twatty thing to say because statistically men are more likely to be attacked by other men.

I know from your other posts that you find new concepts difficult to understand, however, posts which directly state that it's not safe for a "guy" to walk alone at night have already been made. Care to comment on male violence towards other men? Care to comment about male violence at all? Or is the pithy one liner more your thing?

there was a news report earlier about a rape in bedfordshire, it's nice to think that there isn't any danger for women out alone but there is.

it wasn't a twatty thing to say at all.

No one's saying there isn't any danger for women. They're saying that it's no worse a risk than it is for men, and it's certainly not as bad as the constant danger that we're sometimes told we are in.

Not sure where you could have got that I don't think that women are raped from South? Or that women are never in danger when out alone, but I think you might just find that it is young men who are most likely to be involved in a violent attack. So yes, it was a twatty thing to say.

Constantly believing in HUGE amounts of danger for women alone at all times is one way to control women. It also plugs neatly into rape myths.