Ched Evans kicked into touch - at last.

[grimbletart]

At last Sheffield United have done the decent thing.

[www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30054475]

Just dropping this in here. For comedy value. Not a comment on anyone oh no, not me, I'd never be mean

There have of course been convictions following the tweets sent by 'supporters' that CE has never distanced himself from or repudiated in any way.

Press report here

"There have of course been convictions following the tweets sent by 'supporters' that CE has never distanced himself from or repudiated in any way."

What does that have to do with the article you linked to?

I cannot find out when the unnamed firefighter discovered those tweets (I assume the account I found online is incomplete/garbled/just plain wrong as it doesn't appear to make techie sense as written. But for this to make a difference to a legal defence, he would have given a fuller statement. Anyone know where that exists?

As her friends were named, then presumably they too have given statements about their recollection of the messages. If this happened before the trial, the only conclusion is that they did not outweigh other evidence. I'm tending to assume that it was before the trial, as discovery of new evidence would have featured in applying for appeal and it does not seem to have been.

"What does that have to do with the article you linked to?"

My apologies. That article quotes a selection of tweets by his supporters, but does not confirm that they were the ones which led to the convictions which are, of course, a matter of public record.

Perhaps you will find this BBC article more relevant?

I really struggle to see the relevance of the tweets or, indeed the victim evidence in this case.

CE told the police what he had done. His problem is not that she lied or tweeted some bollocks 5 months later, but that CE doesn't know what consent is, or rape, or indeed sex.

You're floundering a bit here yussetec - do you have anything more substantive?

cant mn just ban these posters?

That is the complete point, MrSheen the rapist Evans convicted himself. His own statements showed that he had no concept of consent, that he hadn't bothered to get or even enquire as to whether or not he had her consent. He just raped her.

Tweets made 5 months later are largely irrelevant. That some people want to make them so means they have a slippy grasp on what rape actually is, and on what possible gains a woman who has had to go into hiding and change her identity twice might feasibly have got.

The more reports the better, SFA.

@sanfairyanne

cant mn just ban these posters?

Indeed we can. And have.

Thanks all for reporting that one.

oof another one bites the dust

"It's not uncommon for men to be convicted of rape, spend years in prison then be released after new evidence arises or the accuser changes her story"

Where do these rape apologists get their notions from?

This is just so rare. It is incredibly rare for men to be convicted of rape even when they did it, let alone when they didn't.

Again - what did the trial judge have to say about the FB posts/Twitter feeds?

Nothing.

The police could not find them, only some guy in the US who is an evan's fan, says they once existed.

he was also asked by evans' sister to 'hack' her facebook account.

Off course the deleting of 2.5 years of abusive messages from his gf, sister and mother is not suspicious, no not at all.

Evans has a new twitter account and has deleted all but one message now.

I hope this is allowed, it's a link to my site as it's relevant to this thread - we've given the Hartlepool manager a #NotNorman award for trivialising rape. I think it was the use of the word "boy" about this bloody rapist that really irritated me.

[[http://normanawards.com/2014/12/21/note-to-football-managers-rape-is-not-a-mistake/ Rape is not a mistake"

oops

Rape is not a mistake

Good post, Anonny

Re: Boy. Pleased to hear it.

Sorry, cadno, I don't follow?