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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Would you say anything if this song was played at an Infant school disco?

86 replies

NotWiggling · 09/11/2014 21:04

The song is "Wiggle" By Jason Derulo, with a charming rap by Snoop Dogg.

Lyrics as follows - and please look away now if likely to be offended:

Hey, yo, Jason
Say somethin' to her, Holla at her [Laughs]
I got one question
How do you fit all that... in them jeans? [Laughs]

You know what to do with that big fat butt

[Chorus:]
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
Just a little bit of... swing

Patty cake, Patty cake
With no hands
Got me in this club making wedding plans
If I take pictures while you do your dance
I can make you famous on Instagram

Hot damn it
Your booty like two planets
Go head, and go ham sandwich
Whoa, I can't stand it

'Cause you know what to do with that big fat butt

[Chorus]

Cadillac, Cadillac, pop that trunk
Let's take a shot
Alley oop that dunk tired of working that 9 to 5
Oh baby let me come and change your life

Hot damn it
Your booty like two planets
Go head, and go ham sandwich
Whoa, I can't stand it

'Cause you know what to do with that big fat butt

[Chorus]

[Snoop Dogg rap:]
Shake what your mama gave you
Misbehave you
I just wanna strip you, dip you, flip you, bubble bathe you
What they do
Taste my rain drops, K boo
Now what you will and what you want and what you may do
Completely separated,
Till I deeply penetrate it
Then I take it out and wipe it off
Eat it, ate it, love it, hate it
Overstated, underrated, everywhere I've been
Can you wiggle, wiggle for the D, O, double G, again?

Etc. (there's some more but that's got most of it covered)

Would you say anything to the school? I have a 6 year old DD. When this song comes on the radio I turn it over as I hate it. She asked me why once so I explained to her that it is two men talking about women's bodies in a not nice way. When the song came on at the disco she got quite upset and asked should they be playing this? I think it is wildly inappropriate and want to challenge it. But am I overthinking it?

Would you mention it to the school?

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redwarf · 10/11/2014 06:24

probably singing into the wind but this reminds me of conversation recently had a work. We were remembering the songs we used to love as kids and shocked at the pretty hardcore content that went striaght over our heads.

We all merrily danced to ebenezer goode, Lucy in the sky with diamonds boom boom boom, prince, rap, reggae with understanding any of the sexual lyrics. It was just fun music to us.

redwarf · 10/11/2014 06:43

probably should say i would have feedback to the school after the event but would not be overly concerned unless my DD was asking about the content.

HalfSpamHalfBrisket · 10/11/2014 06:53

Blurred Lines anyone?
I stomped in to the KS2 disco and asked this to be taken off (I am a Foundation teacher at the school).

But school discos cash be a complete nightmare, I am left with a couple recent 'now that's what I call music' CDs, and no idea which tracks are

HalfSpamHalfBrisket · 10/11/2014 06:54

appropriate and which I'm going to do a hasty mix!

Willabywallaby · 10/11/2014 06:54

I used to sing hit me with your ribbon stick, parents still laugh now, didn't even know that's what it really meant Blush

I think there are so many songs out now that have awful lyrics, not appropriate for children, but thankfully most of the time you can make out the words anyway.

MollyBdenum · 10/11/2014 07:00

Our school gets a cheesy DJ who does children's parties in for the school disco. For the infants disco, thee are lots of games (Hokey Cokey, how high can you jump) and lots of songs with official dances that the kids can do (the conga, the Macarena, the birdie song etc) interspersed with some inoffensive 1D, spice girls etc.

FunkyBoldRibena · 10/11/2014 07:05

I remember being extremely obsessed with the Rolling Stones and singing 'fuck a star, fuck a star fuck a sta-a-ar' around the house at that age.

But yes, that at an infant disco - wrong - what are some adults on these days?

Willabywallaby · 10/11/2014 07:22

What about I'm too Sexy song in our youth?

ChippingInAutumnLover · 10/11/2014 07:43

Canyouforgiveher - who said it was 'OK' for 5 year olds??

It is highly unlikely to come on anything, anywhere, that I'd be listening to (that's within my control). Highly unlikely. If it did, the 'noise' would probably make me turn it off before the lyrics even registered. If the lyrics did register then yes I'd turn it off if I was in the car, probably wouldn't bother at home unless I was next to the radio.

However, that's a significantly different situation to the OP. It being played once, while the children are running around and generally acting like chimps on a sugar overload...I can live with it. No one set out to be offensive, they were doing their best to put on a fun event for the kids and given I'm not offering to replace them, I'm not about to act like a prat over one song. No.

icanhaveadarksideifyouwantmeto · 10/11/2014 07:49

yes i would mention it to the school.

But i would keep it lighthearted

I once complained about them playing the pouges (sp) but all i said was 'i really dont think thats appropriate for a primary school'

they turned it off pronto and apologised.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 10/11/2014 07:55

I don't really "hear" lyrics quite often, especially with the sort of pop music the DCs like, which is exactly the sort that gets played at school discos. Every now and then, on about the 50th listen to a Now or whatever CD in the car I will suddenly tune in properly and hear the lyrics, sometimes they are quite inappropriate. However anyone who is a DJ at a school disco most certainly ought to be listening properly to all the planned songs and selecting appropriate ones.

enderwoman · 10/11/2014 08:00

I would send in my complaint with a suggested song list.

I suspect the person who picked the track list picked up a random compilation (after all life is busy enough for most of us) or asked a teen child (I would) and perhaps the pta or whoever organises the disco can use your suggestions next year.

Smartleatherbag · 10/11/2014 08:03

Sure, there's always been inappropriate lyrics, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to draw the line at anal rape.
I sang along to Like A Virgin too, but at least she was having a good time!

icanhaveadarksideifyouwantmeto · 10/11/2014 08:05

which bit refers to anal raping?!?

oohlalabonbons · 10/11/2014 08:05

I'm a year 6 teacher and am proud to say a group of girls in my class asked the dj to take this song off in their summer disco before I had the chance to do so.

Just because 'it happened when we were younger' doesn't make it ok.

Perhaps if more people had challenged it then, this acceptance of so-called 'low level' sexism and misogyny wouldn't be as bad as it is now!

YonicScrewdriver · 10/11/2014 08:15

"Now what you will and what you want and what you may do
Completely separated,
Till I deeply penetrate it"

This bit - what she wants and what she may do are separated.

YonicScrewdriver · 10/11/2014 08:15

(That was to darkside)

Featherxmas · 10/11/2014 08:18

Please raise this with the school the song is disgusting and indecent and not right for an infant school disco. Not everyone has time to be of the PTA, however that doesn't mean you don't have a say at your child's school experience. Hmm

Smartleatherbag · 10/11/2014 08:22

Yes oohlala, totally agree re it not being ok, regardless of what used to be acceptable. Good point.

Thumbwitch · 10/11/2014 08:23

I wouldn't be happy, no. I got the arse when my son's dance teacher was using "Blurred LInes" as one of the dance tracks - great tune, yes, abysmal lyrics and message. She stopped using it after she'd listened to it a bit harder, thank goodness!

NotWiggling · 10/11/2014 09:53

Interesting to see some different responses, thank you.

I did email the school, just to say please have a think about what is being played at these discos in future. I have not made a huge deal of it or gone in all guns blazing, just mentioned it is inappropriate.

Do some people really think I have ruined DD's innocence by informing her this is not a very nice song and that's why I turn the radio off when it comes on? Hmm Surely the casual misogyny that is all around us, that we are supposed to be "cool" about, will ruin her "innocence" a lot faster?

And yes the rap does refer to anal sex, whether the woman wants it or not. I don't expect DD to "get" this bit, of course not, but it is there and it is part of the tone of the whole song.

Thank you for all the responses so far.

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NotWiggling · 10/11/2014 10:01

I should also add that DD was upset in a "Why would they play this?" way, she wasn't crying or distraught or anything! She wanted to leave anyway as it was way too loud.

She had previously liked the song but had noticed the "holler at her" and the "big fat butt" parts and had asked me about it, which is why I explained to her it is inappropriate for children. Usually I turn the radio over/off if some such crap comes on, I don't explain why every time.

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KateeGee · 10/11/2014 10:15

I think you've handled it well.

"I Wanna Sexx You Up" was around when I was 6, I vaguely knew what it was about but I don't think I ever heard it at a children's event. And this song is ten times worse. I guess the innocuous title hides the somewhat sinister lyrics.

NotWiggling · 10/11/2014 10:59

Thank you KateeGee. Yes it was introduced by the DJ as "Here is the wiggle song!". Innocuous indeed.

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PetaPipa · 10/11/2014 11:28

I would be really unhappy about this. I think you're right to question it. Do please let us know how the school responds.

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