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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Twitter troll jailed for rape threats...

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GatoradeMeBitch · 29/09/2014 16:06

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/29/stella-creasy-peter-nunn_n_5899132.html?ncid=webmail1

Peter Nunn sent tweets threatening rape and drowning to Stella Creasy and Caroline Criado-Perez, during the debate about putting a woman on one of the bank notes. He described them as witches.

He has a three year old daughter and a partner.

Where does a man find such hatred and venom for women as a gender when he has a female family, and presumably loves his child? I just can't understand it.

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TunipTheUnconquerable · 29/09/2014 16:17

I am very glad they've recognised the severity of this and jailed him.
From what was quoted of his trial, he really didn't think he'd done something wrong - he was all banging on about his rights to freedom of speech.

PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 16:20

"Where does a man find such hatred and venom for women as a gender when he has a female family, and presumably loves his child? I just can't understand it."

it is incomprehensible, but many men seem perfectly capable of despising women however many of them they have in their lives (otherwise, taking that to the extreme, the ones who would logically most hate women would be gay men with sons)

it's because women aren't real people to them

TunipTheUnconquerable · 29/09/2014 16:25

I think it's also that they don't mind women in their place but women in the public eye are stepping out of their place. It's a hatred of women's voices.

NeoFaust · 29/09/2014 16:27

It's likely he draws a distinction in his own mind between 'real women' and 'feminists'.

After all, the trope 'feminists aren't real women' is very old indeed.

GatoradeMeBitch · 29/09/2014 16:28

I suppose I always see MRA's as angry men with no social lives and no social skills, if not full-on personality disorders, still living with their mothers and resenting them for it. The stereotypical woman hater.

The idea that a man with a partner and a loving little daughter can spew out this vile misogyny and not even feel the need to apologize makes me feel sick. I can only hope for their sakes that he's an Eminem-style hypocrite and can at least raise his own daughter well.

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ArcheryAnnie · 29/09/2014 16:35

I'm glad he got banged up - wish it had been for longer.

It was not surprising, but a bit depressing anyway, to see some men on twitter starting to complain that Stella Creasy's "hurt feelings" is costing the taxpayer whatever-it-is to bang this guy up.

Because god forbid we attribute responsibility for the consequences of criminal activity to the criminal himself, when there's a woman he hurt that we can blame instead.

MissBlennerhasset · 29/09/2014 16:36

Good. I'm glad this was taken so seriously, some of those threats were utterly horrible. All over a banknote, for Christ's sake.

I imagine he sees women as having particular roles/set functions in life and when one speaks out it creates some cognitive dissonance. I feel sorry for his family. What a lovely role model for his daughter. Hmm

MissBlennerhasset · 29/09/2014 16:37

"It was not surprising, but a bit depressing anyway, to see some men on twitter starting to complain that Stella Creasy's "hurt feelings" is costing the taxpayer whatever-it-is to bang this guy up."

Really? Good grief. Yes let's ignore crimes of hate - just get over it, it's only a rape threat, no big deal. FFS.

BriarRainbowshimmer · 29/09/2014 16:52

GOOD! Finally this is taken seriously. He isn't a troll, these are serious threats aimed to shut up a particular group (women)

StillFrigginRexManningDay · 29/09/2014 17:50

Ah yes its only rape not like real crime was threatened. Hmm

I think good that he was jailed. I do wonder what his wife has to say about it though.

YonicScrewdriver · 29/09/2014 18:26

Glad he was jailed.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 29/09/2014 20:24

If it was just a couple of rape threats it would never have got to court in a million years.

The whole way the media is minimising what this man and others did to CCP and SC is bloody disgusting. They systematically, and over s number of days, stalked, threatened, ranted at them. They made sock puppet accounts and taunted them from them. Peter Nunn made videos where he ranted about them. I cannot imagine how terrifying it must have been for them.

His wife is supporting him. She's a cool cool wife Hmm

kujopiya · 29/09/2014 23:04

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PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 23:27

Yup everyone who has posted on here thinks that all problems for all women have even solved by this single conviction

kujopiya · 29/09/2014 23:35

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DuelingFanjo · 29/09/2014 23:38

Perhaps if they were women and black and working class it might have meant the threats were even more likely to be minimised, who knows? Isn't it great though that for whatever reason these kinds of threats ARE being taken seriously by some people and that can only be good for All cases of sexual harassment and stalking by men against women.

PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 23:40

We have literally never discussed the positions of women of different races and classes in the context of feminism. Literally never. Thanks god someone came to put us right

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 00:02

Kujo, aren't you celebrating the fact that someone has been found guilty of a crime in a court of law and has been sentenced accordingly?

PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 00:08

I wondered about that. Talking about innocent until proven guilty, here is someone proven guilty but apparently it's not good enough

pegfin · 30/09/2014 00:09

There is no evidence he does having a loving relationship with either his wife or daughter. I very much doubt his online personality is too far removed from his at home one.

He probably does not have the depth of empathy required to work out that his attitudes will have an effect on the women around him. I am sure his remorse was confined to sadness at his own plight brought about by those evil witches.

Trying to dress it up as some kind of sophisticated intellectual exercise instead of just admitting it was incredibly stupid and deeply unpleasant. It's ok he can break the law because he is proper clever.

StillFrigginRexManningDay · 30/09/2014 00:12

kujo rape is thrown around as a so called joke by so many pathetic excuses for men and you can't see the victory in one conviction? One more asshole named and shamed, one more step towards the real criminalisation of the war on women.

His wife is not a cool cool wife, she appears to be blinkered.

pegfin · 30/09/2014 00:12

kujo if he had made those remarks to a working class black woman and he had not been arrested, who exactly do you think would have been to blame for that omission?

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 00:33

That would be the fault of the feminists, pegfin. Obviously.

pegfin · 30/09/2014 00:46

That may have been my predictionWink but I want to hear what kujo has to say as I am really curious as to the point kujo was trying to make.

kujo??

TunipTheUnconquerable · 30/09/2014 08:41

Kujo was making a perfectly reasonable point IMO.

Yes it's a start but it's likely more than coincidence that the conviction has been secured in a case where the victims were young, blonde, white, m-c, etc. I think a lot of men in positions of influence (ie white m-c men....) are more likely to want to spring to the defence of women who bring out their knight-in-shining-armour side by happening to match the picture of the ideal victim.
Wanting to discuss this doesn't detract from the fact that it's a Good Thing he was convicted.