The whole "Us vs Them" of it is very sad. Yes, I know MRAs do and say some awful things. And many of them hate women. But you know, to some extent I agree with poor Voix - it's tragic that there is so much animosity and misunderstanding between the two groups. We have our views on MRAs, they have their views on feminists. Pretty much all of that they think about feminism doesn't reflect reality. So the reconciliatory side of me would like to think that a lot of what we think about MRAs isn't true.
But then again, I have been on the receiving end of MRA threats when I speak out about feminism, so I know that at least for a very vocal part of the movement, the woman-hating trope is true.
As has been said before, feminism continues to believe the best of men despite all evidence to the contrary. I feel like that about what happened here today. Some of us were completely derisory towards Voix. And while he was misinformed on many issues, he did remain unfailingly polite and rational (in his own way) in the face of some actual abuse from feminists.
I'm not sure what I'm trying to say - trying to reconcile some muddled thoughts that are rattling around in my head. Two conflicting opinions - if they're so wrong about us and our intentions, maybe we're just as wrong about them. But then - "I hope you die in a fire" doesn't leave much room for misinterpretation, does it?