Abortion in Ireland, proof of being suicidal

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How can you prove that thoughts inside your head exist? You can't. This poor poor woman was forced to remain pregnant.
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You're not your.

After I had ds4 I had post natal psychosis, spent time in a psych unit and for a long time was not well. At one point I thought I might be pregnant again, without a shadow of a doubt I knew I would have a termination. As it was I had a very early miscarriage, or at least I thunk I did. Period two weeks late (I am never late) but I was terrified to take a preg test and have it become real... Anyway I wonder had I have had to plead my case would I have been allowed?

Not only would I have been dead and the foetus but four children would have been left without a mother.

I thank fuck I live in England And am horrified by the situation in Ireland and America etc.

But hey the babies are ok, fuck the women that have to gestate them.

Sickening. The poor woman.

I'm finding pregnancy all kinds of difficult and really want my baby. Being forced to go through it against your will with no positive end result for her is like some kind of cruel torture!

Soon I have read some anti woman comments on here but that has to be one of the most unfeeling things I have ever read. This is not a good outcome. A woman forced to give birth to a baby nobody wants.

She also described as young & vulnerable

I can't imagine what she's been through. This could well have destroyed her life. State-sanctioned assault with no recourse.

Surely the state should owe someone a greater duty of care than simply keeping them alive.

This is the story as it appears on the BBC. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28823433

So, not only was she suicidal, but she is young and vulnerable. But yeah, it's just fine that they made her gestate until they decided to cut her open, because that's all women are for, isn't it?

OMFG they force fed her.

Talk about removal of autonomy. How utterly barbaric.

Fucking disgusting.

She was assessed as having suicidal thoughts.
Was this not good enough for them?
She tried to starve herself.
This still wasn't fucking good enough.

Its all a big fucking joke, theres no new rights for women in Ireland just another set of self righteous assholes to pour judgement on them.

They performed the c section at 25wks?!! What are the odds of that baby having complications and probably life long health issues.

The small blessing is they allowed that rather than force the woman to carry to term. It says the hospital were granted permission to hydrate her (with a drip?) so from the sounds of it she was confined to hospital and that is why she was possibly unable to commit suicide.

So not only forced to continue the pregnancy but it sounds like she was detained? Probably against her will in hospital.

People are commenting on Twitter this evening that the pregnancy was as a result of rape.

Law in Ireland is barbaric. Women are as said upthread reduced to incubators with no autonomy over their own bodies.

How someone can look at this and pat themselves on the back for their pro life/forced birth stance is beyond me. They need to hang their heads.

Even if the foetus will not survive outside the womb a woman still cannot get an abortion in Ireland. Yes I agree, we are walking incubators.

Even if it was from a night of the world's most ecstatic consensual sex, they still had no fucking right to detain her, force feed her and make her go through a c-section. None.

I am utterly repulsed by this.

very reminiscent of the X-case if the story about rape is true. Suicidal woman prohibited from abortion of pregnancy as a result of rape.

agreed captchaos

It is horrific. Where's the compassion or empathy?

Fucking patriarchy.

It's not about the baby/foetus though is it? It can't be or they wouldn't have performed the c section at 25wks, if they really were pro life/cared about the baby (as a person) they would have made her carry it longer.

It's about control and punishing women, she had sex ergo she must suffer.

And the early c section makes it worse somehow, not only have they forced the woman to suffer but they have pretty much guaranteed that the baby will also suffer, it is massively unlikely that there will be no long term consequences to being that premature.

Unfortunately this story does not surprise me at all. I would be curious to know what the mental health assessment consisted of. During my experience (which I know some of you on this thread know about) I wasn't routinely given a mental health assessment. In fact it was only because I challenged one of the consultants by quoting the legislation that I was given a mental health assessment at all.

For those who would be able to help, this is an organisation who help women in Eire and NI to access abortions in the UK.

www.abortionsupport.org.uk/

What 5madthings just said.

It makes me feel sick, it's barbaric.

This is the same country that let Savita Halappanavar die because her miscarriage still had a heartbeat. It's medieval that a woman can be left to die in agony because of misogynistic religious beliefs that she may not even hold.

Barbaric indeed, poor Woman, poor Baby.

They fucking force fed her in order to bring into the world a child at a gestation that will need NICU.

These are the same people who let a woman die because her dead foetus wasn't dead enough?

Barbaric.

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/homeV2/article1447800.ece

It's behind their bloody paywall, but, it turns out that the young woman in question was raped and was also an asylum seeker, so couldn't have left Ireland for an abortion even if she could have got the money together. She also doesn't have much English.

Ireland does have abortion rights for women who have been victims of rape or incest, but, because there is no actual legislation, it's poorly understood.

The child, because it was born to an asylum seeker, may not have an automatic right to stay in Ireland, despite having been taken into state care.

But yeah, it's abortion which is barbaric and inhumane, so so right.