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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Care for a game of rape myth bingo?

35 replies

ReallyFuckingFedUp · 06/07/2014 12:21

www.hulldailymail.co.uk/years-jail-bricklayer-Lee-Setford-8216-lost/story-21316028-detail/story.html

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CatKisser · 06/07/2014 12:25

Fucking hell, the poor chap's pretty much a victim! Angry

Chachah · 06/07/2014 12:27
Shock

wow, that's depressing

do they not train judges at all?

MardyBra · 06/07/2014 12:27

Good grief. How dare she fall asleep on a sofa. That's really provocative behaviour. No wonder he couldn't help himself.

MardyBra · 06/07/2014 12:30

Oh and him being a man "of good character" what with his previous conviction for battery and all that. Hmm

LeBearPolar · 06/07/2014 12:31

"You simply could not resist"? Shock

And WTAF is a "classic rapist"? This is so depressing.

ghostisonthecanvas · 06/07/2014 12:31
Shock

There are no words. Thats really upset me, I feel really angry. That poor woman. If he had apologised. ...ffs.

Poussay · 06/07/2014 12:36

What the actual fuck

Good character, not a classic rapist who will seek out strangers... Hmm Angry

He is a disgusting man, and I can't believe the judge is trying to make anyone feel sorry for him

CatKisser · 06/07/2014 12:36

The could not resist comment is vile. It paints the woman as some seductive temptress... Even the headline irritates me. Why include "drunken?" Does the fact she was drunk mean she was partially to blame for him being a rapist?

Chachah · 06/07/2014 12:41

the really horrible thing is that it's not some random Daily Mail reader saying those things. It's a fucking JUDGE. Is there no hope?

ReallyFuckingFedUp · 06/07/2014 12:45

It just paints the average man as some kind of beast who has to control himself constantly from raping women.

What I dond't understand is how the judge doesn't see him as a risk to women because he doesn't go "looking for women to rape". No he only rapes them if them come to him in his home. And there is absolutely no chance of that ever happening again is there?

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StillFrigginRexManningDay · 06/07/2014 15:15

He couldn't resist the poor love what with those nasty women showing up with their vaginas.Hmm

When judges make comments like those it, rightly or wrongly, makes me question the morals of that judge.

EBearhug · 06/07/2014 15:35

If only she hadn't been pretty. Or he'd just said sorry. Then it would all be all right.

What training do judges get?

ReallyFuckingFedUp · 06/07/2014 16:44

rightly IMO still. he made it abundantly clear that men have to have to practice restraint when a woman they "fancy" is in the room.. Because it is so hard not to rape someone.

I know it's a struggle when I see good looking men to not rape them.

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ReallyFuckingFedUp · 06/07/2014 16:46

What training do judges get?

I'm pretty sure he got his degree out of a cereal box. You'd think, what with practicing law, and all that he'd be hyper aware of how the man in that story is the "classic rapist".

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BelleCurve · 06/07/2014 17:20

Can we complain about the judge? Anyone know how?

McBear · 06/07/2014 17:33

Judges don't have legal qualifications tho do they? Aren't they meant to be a member of the public and they get legal advice from a legal person.

McBear · 06/07/2014 17:35

But you don't have to have legal qualifications, or any really, to know the judge is a cunt.

It's obviously her fault for being pretty. Obviously no man can restrain themselves from a pretty woman Angry

CaptChaos · 06/07/2014 17:55

That is bloody awful, although not surprising. Our judiciary don't have a particularly good record on rape myths, do they.

A Judge (for the most part) has to have legal training and have worked in the judiciary for at least 5 years before they're appointed. I also thought that judges had to be fairly neutral in their summing up, except in rape or sexual assault cases, natch.

I notice the lack of men or women posting about how this shows that men accused of rape should be named before trial, you know, like they would be screaming for the opposite if he were found guilty.

Optimist1 · 06/07/2014 18:10

I reckon her downfall was all due to the fact that she wasn't wearing modesty shorts (as introduced to me today on another thread).

CatKisser · 06/07/2014 18:12

Pretty AND drunk, don't forget. She was obviously up for it. Angry
Yes, "classic rapist" is spectacularly ignorant. Surely someone in the legal profession cannot have failed to follow high profile sex cases where it emerges the rapist was anything BUT the "classic" man in a dark alley, to give a ridiculous stereotype.
Very, very depressing.

McBear · 06/07/2014 18:14

But what is a classic rapist?

Pretty and drunk?! How dare she! Practically begging for it, obviously!

CatKisser · 06/07/2014 18:17

I honestly think this judge assumes a classic rapist is a baddie in black, hiding in the bushes waiting for woman walking in the dark on her own. Whereas anyone with a scrap of sense, or indeed anyone who's read the thread about rape survivors, knows the reality is far more likely to be something totally different.

Id be interested in other peoples' perspectives on the headline. Maybe I'm wrong, but is it right to include the word "drunken" in the headline? I think not.

McBear · 06/07/2014 18:22

I'm not sure. It makes no difference. He's still a rapist. Had she not been drunk he'd have lacked the opportunity but clearly the intent was there.

For me, when they feel the need to mention it in the title, it's as if they want you to think 'asked for it' or that it's not a real rape because somehow it's her fault.

Fair enough to mention it in the article as it gives a clear description of what happened.

SandorClegane · 06/07/2014 18:28

That's horrendously depressing and insulting to both men and women.

SandorClegane · 06/07/2014 18:30

It's been picked up by buzz feed...

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